So this monsignor. -- diocese and archdiocese. Are running the office -- for the clerk -- clergy now being charged allegedly failing to protect a young children from. Sexual abuse by priests. A grand jury passing down the charges to five -- one another priest. Are charged with -- -- you sexually assaulting a fourteen year old. Back in the late ninety's by the way this Williams actually. Was the -- shared diocese. From 1992 to 2004. And as the head of the clergy office oversaw all priests personnel issues. And advise the cardinal in Philadelphia. So I'm asking the question why not. Should the Catholic officials who movies kind of -- priest from one person the other. Also be held criminally accountable. For covering up priest abuse and I see that and I have my guess sir Davids are classy joins me national director of a snap. Good morning my -- -- again by Sammy on the show wants more. Thanks I appreciate the opportunity how did you react to this one. -- -- and how did you react to this story here. -- where we where we believe it's. Long long overdue on your church officials in America admit that there has been almost 6000. Predator priests and yet until now there's not been a single supervisor -- single bishop for months senior. Who has faced any charges for ignoring and concealing child search -- so we believe that this move by the Philadelphia. I district attorney -- long overdue it frankly should be happening elsewhere are. The country just like any other criminal accessory to a crime being responsible. For a just re assigning these priests. Or under investigation for being -- -- file sunny to another parish. Where you're literally putting thousands of kids at risk. -- -- We'll get Bob that's exactly the trade that the grand jury used that this month senior. Put literally thousands of kids in harm's way and it's important to remember this report is different than others this report talks about current behavior. I'm these grand jurors in Philadelphia it. And concluded that there are thirty said the credibly accused. Child molesting clerics in the parishes today around two it's 37 that -- In the -- the Philadelphia archdiocese so that obviously raises the question. If there are that many in Philadelphia how many are there are still working quietly and other parishes across the US. And it's hard to believe that this is this is the first time hiring keying. Official in the dioceses RRR is under criminal statute for charges stuff happened dissidents as a precedent setting case that city. Why so long I don't get it. That's a great question I think it's a number of factors number one we do have some very archaic predator friendly laws in this country. Number two. Can't officials don't just conceal child sex crimes that they do it. Very very shrewdly and effective. And number three unfortunately there are still some police and prosecutors in America. That are very reluctant to take on. -- powerful institutions. -- that's gonna change it when it victims and witnesses and whistle -- continue to come forward and continue to speak up and continue to call. Law enforcement. And when lawmakers. Finally stepped up to play. That's she's in las you're gonna slow downs and -- yeah absolutely absolutely. We got to eliminate. Or extend this this silly statute of limitations that could sit tight deadline on victims come forward. And it gives the predators. An incentive to run out the clock in to intimidate victims and destroy evidence and fabricate alibi that statue imitation is the biggest single obstacle. To protecting kids an extra. You find it surprising that the parishioners. We're shocked when money funneled to news. There was -- Yep and M actually in many -- they shouldn't have been because just five years ago. The Philadelphia district attorney issued another scathing report much like this one you. So they should yeah. We're right right we what we can do is is the minutes one of these scandals erupts the minutes. Catholic official even begins to promise reform. We all relax way to -- OK great now Toledo. And that -- complacency about it is the real problem here we have to really be vigilant we have to be persistent. And we have to insist on action. Not words that tangible action that will actually prevent protect children rather than just soothing apologies. And vague promises. But bishops. You really get you can I hold you -- Paducah some on news and come back and get geoghan I -- in the bunch of questions. Actually the odds -- cut my pleasure having him would have any of our list is getting questions on this thing call. He have an opportunity to talk but David. He's the national director of snap. One -- just joining me here. Currently we're talking about in Philadelphia. A grand jury has recommended. On charging. The one of the -- seniors -- there in the archdiocese of a Philadelphia with two actually two criminal counts. Of endangering the welfare of of children who was responsible for recommending the assignment of priests who were being investigated. About abuse allegations. And what he did was he movies priests and other parish. Which actually put literally thousands of children are at risk of sexual abuse -- mania indeed work. He got five vote priests involved in this whole thing -- Are charged with raping and sexually assaulting a fourteen year old boy. And I would be from the from snap. The survivors network of of of those abused by priests is typical -- welcome back David. I -- -- -- now you before when the news are you so we need to be strengthening the other laws prosecuting. Priest who are guilty of sexual are abuse how we go about doing that would we talked two weeks I've talked to members of our legislature is how to get this thing don't. Absolutely most of these laws are state laws. And there a couple of steps number one and they decent statute to a patient. -- imposed deadlines aren't victims and say you -- come forward. Two years actually turn eighteen or three years that he turned toward want. Those -- simply got to be revoked the number -- some states have. Task order called Rico laws. There's a federal Rico -- it's designed to go after organized crime figures and it's been very effective states have passed local ones and have even passed civil Rico laws. At a lot of steps can be taken that main hurdle but the main hurdle is that we tend to point that's a relief. -- institution or private institution. Secular officials tend to take a big big step back if there's -- suspected child molester in a public school. Cops go after him or her as well they should you know intersected a religious school however however we are very sensitive about. Seeming to interfere in any way it was somewhere safe and that's kind of -- attitude little -- school that we have to overturn it we say look let's protect kids no matter where they are private institutions public institutions secular institutions are religious. Number one protecting the children are making room for archbishop here -- of parents -- role here what's a person whose role. He get a new priest. In your your first one on demand a background check report. -- we do it no you know our jobs here. Take a job here live radio station -- -- -- -- -- criminal market where you are talking -- Thousands of people that -- and parents Bob Bob you know we've been getting children to report. A problem when it happens. Nothing not to back off and be afraid. No you're exactly right mini mini. Is still never have a talk with their -- About C hardest parts of the body what to do if someone approaches them are tested and appropriately so parents have characters. Have those. Have conversations with kids. And basically have to believe their children when their children say things like -- uncle Bob showed me this dirty magazine instead of instantly saying. Come -- don't local -- my life is a wonderful guy we've got to start burning on the side of believing. Being innocent children. Rather than the accused adults. While very well put David classy thank you for joining me this morning what about thank you -- director snap.