This hour you and Mike -- here is certainly have a couple questions but. I'm deter new review of the call which 2601. Need somebody know a lot of you wanna talk about San Francisco and New Orleans. And -- the -- -- very hard and just that Mike thank you for joining us. Are doing just -- go all of our you don't brother. Doing okay. A little confused in the end in Belgium says your Christians are doomed to loosens. Everything I hear you know Greg Williams who's destined to go to Saint Louis and here. Defense is more than should be in and I hear boy you feel good and only hadn't been for defense. But I've heard. Greg Williams master mind for a number of years. I've heard Greg Williams. Super Bowl ring at least from 100. I've heard. Gregg Williams and vicious guy who did does a great defense we got fourteen and poor we -- all coming in them for records. There's our defense really that bad what am I miss. Well I think with gray you know it's an opportunity for him to go below coach back with is still calls his friends. In this business and Jeff Fisher. Number two Greg just from the looser re area. And you know bottom line is I think where do you feel maybe you maybe we need to change any wants an opportunity. I know one thing he wants to be head coach again in the NFL. Maybe feels slow to better opportunity for him the -- they head coaching job he won the Super Bowl here that this team. It's gonna play out two of the years and you know right now with coaching openings. VW out of there. Spoke. So you gotta do what you got to do some times in this business and I do know one thing I think he would've reunited with Jeff. Couple years back -- did not bin. Oral -- Adams whose policies that he couldn't bring his son along. And because who's also been an assistant on this staff in New Orleans and I think that was a big reason why now caches a lot of reasonable right to. Because what we don't know and has been -- does talk a little bit but. You know he he's been a good code from this standpoint that you've just look at that football team. And he's had to do in some magic sort of speak defensively. To try to get this team to. You know play at a certain level and -- nine that you know great because of the fact that turnovers. Last couple years hasn't been nearly the same. Do I agree what what he did late in the game no but you know that's just the way great ideas. Filled. He's not a guy that's gonna you gonna feel a lot of that zone coverage stuff over the proper. He played Manny went after a bit of bullets fly to try to catch. You know I would submit to this situation way to put pressure on -- -- for a fact you've been doing that a good portion of the game. -- aren't basically bottom line you know sometimes that happens in this business you've got a player. Alex Smith stepped up. He's going to be -- this -- sometime this is all about slaves. But it's about players. And at crunch time. Vernon Davis and Alex Smith. Made those couple plays with a game changes so. You know it it it's a personal thing -- -- both very want to believe. It's certainly opens up a big opening and has some big name. Defense of -- is out there and Steve Spagnuolo. The former New York Giants defense of coordinator oval. An unsuccessful ride is the head -- great move -- Jack Del Rio. Of former New Orleans Saints linebacker who was prominent go to Jacksonville Jaguars. And Mike Nolan. Also no ties with his bad. Being here he was a former assistant coach and they'll issue and he's been a long time NFL assistant -- a great job as a defense of coordinator. They're probably defense of coordinator. This little spot that I'd really like to be you because of one guy and true breeze. It's gonna help me win a lot of football games and Republican to -- head coach again they're probably young coach. That maybe want spot. Bottom line is the saint. When you look at that final game -- always think Paula it's a micro console would she need for the next season -- you -- -- the playoffs. Bottom line is this team could not get pressure. On the 49ers. Without bullets and we're not put lecture people upfront. He need to get better in need a better pass rush. And the other thing that I think stood out was just how much -- -- physical. The foreign not a secondary was and the saints you need to I think made some changes there also also. Extra pressure defense -- tackle outside linebacker. And if we get to -- a little bit more physical low in the secondary. While the defense has tried the football. And that's. -- -- Your own would like determined. Mine I'm still the friends and that the bag. I've got -- last night you know I would look at all -- -- out of the back -- lately. The chance at it but I think we can make it back in that -- yeah. It's I can't disagree with you how well this team has played in the dome in -- Well you just watch yesterday you got -- of people are demanding his props. Here are cool to present its terror charges. It is called back -- It's definitely a great job Eli Manning and company did it to beat the Packers but -- -- like you are big -- game being played that don't. This trying to end up in Indianapolis and play in the in this of all I grew PR percent. The when we get through Super Bowl that you don't. If -- don't see that that's what that's what they did they know did it to a different goal than it is for a Super Bowl winner to repeat. Should they decide underdog this year. Born when -- next year. Garland all I can tell you is that they're afraid of brands that make here is -- president what he calls. You know it and that's the fastest finger of the system finality of this. And in October as the big book that about you know when you lose in the playoffs it's this settle Apollo creed line Iraqi there is no tomorrow. There really isn't it staying. You know that that's what to play the game four he -- That last four minutes of the saints game wasn't as -- before about a ride as you will double B and if you finance. Because not only to believe what she took it twice peninsula would disappear. It was a wild ride and that's there's staying there because when if you saw Jimmy Graham score used these itself. Man this is some gun of football team because that come back. I'm five turnovers. And not play as well as you've had in the past and you defense hanging in there and in this he would. Pretty much vanished so quickly. That this kind of they would do for a long time. The wind wouldn't Greg Williams a blitz Smith on the second to and from 33 yard line that they -- 3040 seconds left. Do you think you debated better all horizontal well that the united. His -- and his DNA as a football coach -- and -- to be honest with -- did not go to rebel front but put pressure would just therefore. That they're just not good enough. What is the big difference I saw that game you watched the -- an honest. And their front they were able to get pressure. If it was from Justin Smith -- -- you name it they were able to give it with their defense of line as Frank Warren. So you just can't let a pro quarterbacks that Baghdad -- football. And you know he he took a chance that he would CNET the last three years from great. He he knows that he does not have a good enough front. To put pressure it just -- for. He's got to sit next for people and -- they concerned sometimes centric people. They're getting good deal. This of the Latino for the defense at the football team over the last three years has been known. Because of their offensive firepower there ability to score points. The big difference in 09 and eleven. -- -- -- was go back to it was affected beat this team was not able to come up with that kernel or us. The deal nineteen did -- special football player. And that was his lads who run the National Football League as a big time player. You didn't have any of that this year they've really struggled in that category again. This -- -- football team that. Has tried to manufacture. Pressure would actual people and we take that chance. Sometimes you get burned and that's what happened. That's what makes football and sports special. Great players. Not playing great when they have to all the time. But planes sometimes great when the spotlight with a shot on these -- Vernon Davis welcome that type player that is the thing. It especially after. What he went through was single room in Singleton. -- -- -- He's got he got a defining moment rather than with my naked and he's turned into one of the deal lead. Tight ends and his business or use global problems square around Jimmy Graham Vernon Davis. In and Jim it was it was a little boot from get -- comic called. Early in that game and both those guys just played unbelievable again that that's what makes. You know this game special when -- great players what everything is on the line use some breathing Graham come up with a big plays. Darren Sproles to -- the big two point polite. And you know you -- -- couple you know this is unbelievable when you watch in history here by the way this game. I had you know turn the football over so much. If it wasn't meant to be because you know they got a few special players of that -- not a team to. Our lips put Paul -- might deteriorated Paul welcome to show. -- Basically I was a columnist saying that yeah I think the saints play pick gang put a lot of which do you see inmate -- About their defense that are all back but people are looking at the fact that they're particularly those NFL. Think takeaways. And win this thing and the ball as much as they've had it. How to get it seemed like effort that says defense take -- the -- traffic. And that's one of the biggest keys fat -- -- their fiscal where they are right now. Well separatist -- blown into the game -- team that. They really could force turnovers and in the big difference is is because of what they can -- up front. They're dead defensive front that's bottom line and they were able to get great pressure. And then again sometimes. In this business. It is still so much on the passing game. And if you can put pressure on the quarterback. You your ability. To create turnovers is gonna increase and once they would've fought it not as they want opportunistic. You saw a very physical and aggressive defense go after the saints. -- intimidation. Well you go to the British on -- -- to. They weren't intimidated by the plays defensively but we -- when -- fail. There's Dean Cain would then look a little over a minute from probably game out. When you spoke at a team's seventeen point two. -- turnovers. And that you would still the football game. And that's remarkable. How well defensively. Unit W back in bad situations because. You know offensively they would turn the football global he made a big faux pas on special teams and turned the ball over and yet you would still in the football game. You have deported on a full credit. Date they would about a football team if you play ten times. They wouldn't say 27 out of ten. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- You know when Obama's so Lou's village is seventy note twelve to fourteen point 31720. And -- -- report. I didn't think we had a prayer that -- Garland are that's why. This football team the off season. And you know that negotiations and this is all about money would Drew Brees and everything else and if you try to come up with the right numbers that you can also -- -- -- the people. How special football player years. He's seventeen and up and down you'd be cool is you put this team on his back with no running game because once Pierre Thomas went out. The running game gun went out with him to. He put this team on his back and brought -- took a break of opportunity to win this game. -- that would have been an unbelievable situation to see what he did. Under those are two circumstances -- -- with all the turnovers no running game and yet it was still this corals. To put it out. It goes to show what type of football player via video season if he has an improvement anyone yet what his value is. These the most valuable football player for any team any NFL. And I know one thing it's -- Russia -- a -- lot more money now does sign him that it would have back in August and September. -- in the that the truth. Lose all Calero would like to. -- my gala are everywhere chewy. Our parent could prepare structure but are we we are certainly some -- -- Obama. You could turn into receivers -- mark their bars. Is tiger gigs yeah -- got people are -- approach. You would -- being 88 in education some balls here are really do a -- -- desperately. It is that a problem all year long and I know Olympic Gregg of new dimpled wanted to the other problem with a wide receivers coach. You can edit that you going to be there and red coat so. -- I don't I don't appropriately -- yeah yeah yeah what you want it is secondary. Can understand what they play defense and not on offense. And then -- more deceptions that any team that I can remember in recent years. And distill. Can't -- Carl in my 27 years. This planes this year. Now -- you know would this sixteen regular season games in the 2.0 games. Both -- combined. Did not get one interception. I just think about that and -- what is -- what has gotten. And as -- -- is absolutely it's not just if you have a safety tandem and they have one. Little nine sharper led the league in interceptions. -- by themselves. Let's go to Bubba and rebuild your -- would like to. As I had known but. You bimbo. Being. It's been around and I did you ever regret and I he would hey. I was one of my -- my question was. Did -- like we've played a lot of man -- man. This game Burnham davis' -- is -- give him his credit put. It's likely played a little bit more zone during the during the year and now while would you change in -- and bill as it's actually the last. Possession at the Jimmy Graham scored you wanna keep everything in front and it just seemed like we went to man a man is -- Tony keeping everything fifteen yards in front expensive -- safety you know played him a little bit more people. I don't. Disagree with you but you know we know in the wake Gregg Williams wants to make those coverages up he chose to do it continuously play this same thing he won't be in he's done that for three years here. Kind of mix up the coverage part of the game try to be aggressive try to force a turnover try to get a fax it just didn't work. You know it didn't work -- in -- other thing too is you gotta remember a that Roman Harper was playing on a bad ankle in this game. He gave it is best and then don't they switched to sort this prequel Malcolm Jenkins became the got to cover Vernon Davis. But you know what you live by the sword you die by out of sorts sometimes and that's what happened in that blitz of tuition. When it comes down to is you're not good enough for -- they get pressure on a quarterback would judge your front four. That is that is a problem that you have to fix in the off season you've got to be able to go out the people that can put pressure on the quarterback. And you're not giving it a consistent basis just what would you front four and you weren't getting -- Saturday. Give defrauded out of a little credit on that too. They were able to block those guys out and -- times you're in a game this -- did get some pressure brought on Alex Smith but it wasn't consistent. But every coach won't do it they'll mix and match coverages. They don't wanna show the quarterback the same thing I don't disagree with you late in the game. How to play this game if they get a kick a field goal -- should know what times so be it. Because you're just not good enough -- -- -- you'd need defense to get pressure you had to do something that try to get pressure. You know what he got burned with that and you gotta give. Before it on his credit Alex Smith made the plays when he had to in crunch time and I'll be the first to say not one of many. That I didn't think you know he was that type quarterback they can do that Matt's situation. He turned into that type quarterback -- there was. Got a big job boiled over again how many times has fought another team in years past but they had Monsanto the young. Come up with big plays late in the game the beaches. And you know you can take a by the name of Montana and young and terrorize and John Taylor Roger Craig and all old guys. Now you get out Alex Smith and Vernon Davis to that list. Winnable Ralitsa that Aaron Rodgers after their defeat landslide. -- -- -- -- look at the locker room and known a lot of -- got -- Coming back. -- bet they'll let me ask you about Rogers Franklin Ellis Johnson Will Smith. Who's coming back. I've been surprised though rod -- -- frankly I think you have to make some -- there -- pressure across the defense of tackle front I think the big decision defensively in the -- season is going to be what do you do with Jonathan -- You know it and he's been a terrific football player hit team leader. A guy that that's the type of individual you want on your team. But because of age. Because of the injury he has his -- And because of the fact he's going to be you know what five point five million dollars Bobby and I talked about this now for the last two months. You gonna have to make a big -- big decisions here. Because -- on done for the guy that looks to -- its eventual replacement for him is an un restricted freeagent. And -- that's a tough choice. You know what he can't pay everybody. But I know one thing most of time you pretty younger guys. And you look at Franklin you look at Rogers -- would they get paid. And air rage -- likely you're gonna make some changes along the defense to tackle position. And the the middle linebacker spot is one to watch because. Jonathan has been that leader. Any there -- you know you are a bit of -- five point five beta keep jewel on. Because of you know listen you got other people that you want -- Q what Carl -- back Q what Marcus Colston back if the price is right you want Robert Meachem back. You certainly want Drew Brees you know you need him back. So you're gonna have to make some choices there all of Orlando is the younger guy who played the last. Most of the time he wins out. We're pretty good about what else -- football -- might be Julia is okay and Mike. I'm got a question for you. I'm sure -- have felt at least finding a lot of 49ers probably helmet to helmet. It's our players are -- a lot of blood -- -- -- and I'm not making excuses. You know our defense didn't play as well as it should. But I just thought there was a lot of stuff not being called in that game. And helmet to helmet it's still one -- appeared Thomas. Why wasn't that are defenseless receiver or I want an -- delegates. If they -- -- -- Graham. I mean that you're decrypt what your job market scholes state. And there was actually a war are now. Gene Brees was hit twice and that it. In public it its region you know what I've found that game almost like direct read let him play. It was almost like you would jewelry watches and it will calling games like 678 football. You can you gotta get deported out of a lot of credit more -- in that's the thing that jumped out at me. It is good money gets a lot of penalties of running backs. Did helmet to helmet. And has since been indeed -- -- and now he's glorious self would do. So here that was such a bang bang plays so quickly and it doesn't sometimes do not gonna get social but he lowered his -- would do at that point in time. The try to get into the end zone. But Garland it it did remind me as physical as that game was. Of a game that you may be saw two years ago. Well you know it is you don't see that sort of Colleen. We play and that's why I he really was impressed -- Jim Harbaugh was able to do -- San Francisco. This team was not known to be a real physical football team cup football team and he Greek debt into that club. And they would not intimidated by the stage one -- being you know what I thought I saw a little bit of that then the first. Strange game at the lions may -- were intimidated a little bit. It to April when you play on the road and when you play a little bit and they've really -- off of that. The sort of deal put what they are physical football team they have been like that all season long. -- it explains and to -- our -- Former quarterback. If she is getting the credit now on how -- the defense is. More than shall and paying -- -- you get the blame for how bad hours and his power or seemingly now. What I think it's more mentality. That he brought to the game because you know he's a former player and I remember talking -- code until -- cohesive they add. You know for a quarterback he has such a tough guy any bring that mentality when he was that Stanford's. That what you think about it -- Stanford football you think about being in a tough team. So the one the last -- did you could -- -- but Stanford football but he did he was able to do that it was that mentality. Did they built differently that you know when you look at the -- out of in the saint it's two totally different entities and when you look at what they've put out on the field. But it's also about players. And they won't be able to go out and get players and that's and he was fortunate he inherited a lot of goals split two. From prior regime to a -- honest. He he didn't try to reinvent the wheel. But he brought in big fans feel former saints coach who coached the dome patrol linebackers. And -- was able to make kids work defensively. And you did this and did. That's the end Saturday deported out of with a bad team and you'd just as much as it hurts don't watch what you did. It was a better football teams Saturday and gone all I can say is from -- no one mile and was a great run. In watching -- and third team -- though this safe thirteen in three. But I gotta say. It has been allowed these start -- twelve. That's about the best player does they Atlantic islands on national TV announcers can still play at Alabama as -- -- You think total domination of Alabama over LSU 21 and not -- they displayed in a wild ride league game the way they did to get knocked out in the playoffs -- after they. -- -- won't you think that giants upset grain based in Lambeau Field when everybody was so worried about playing it in Green Bay they beat them. May have I'll use that term obvious that. And we championship -- in the dome. W. Last week. That that that that. Look I'm -- gonna Royce and Gloria we we haven't been you know and capitalism here in the think tanks play this week. And reported on Drew Brees in the city here's a good example. You've got somebody you brood and you. Very short supplies. In the situation with the gigantic demands we should be able to -- scoring and say give me six could trillion dollars in the given to. But the -- capitalism is set up. If you want to maintain his reputation his ability to win game if you want to know the Super Bowl ring. He can demand anything but the saints are gonna have to say. Well you know if you don't have the defense you can go to the Super Bowl if you don't have alone and that Debra will line that can protect them. But that does how old do they pay Brees. Still keep him up and -- the highest period. And still do all the replacements have got to. Horrible Garland that that's the juggling act and that that would make this game different today. And that you need people that also can juggle both the financial part of the and and you want -- and you'll understand that at this point in time if he's not gonna be the highest paid player. Ain't gonna be many guys -- -- a bit of -- rolling out of jail when the publicist said and done what you wanna keep. Players like Marcus Colston and Carl Nicks and -- on Dunbar. You wanna keep as many of those guys is you can't which you can't pay everybody. So you're gonna have to make that difficult choice. And -- that would make this game intriguing in the off season if you win championships. Well which can do from late January. In until the end of may. You don't win championships. During the season. It's also about but what you do in the off season. Flash it was different because really there was no off season until basically training camp done in July because of the no new agreement. It picked every offseason. That's what it's all about. Paying the people that you wanna keep the right prize. The able to go out -- and specifically look for spots that you need to add. And put this football team it's defense -- tackle its outside linebacker -- accompanist secondary. And yet he's still wanna keep certain players there and it also draft. There was no red shirt anymore in the NFL you've got to play those young kids. And you sort this year with the -- Cameron Jordan be able to come into play and start most of the season at the end marked as Wilson's. Johnny -- seeing a tremendous a lot of playing time. You'll. You had different players that you were able to insert into the line up and become impact players for you. That that was role players. You win championships. Not that well it's starts from late January and so basically the end of may. In picking players paying players selecting players that's when you win it. Mica I'd one thing to pearl would help do good news Fisher during the football season blood. Remind you all have book a full camp a preview. Quote key in the to brief you on the upcoming season so that all -- you have your expertise levelled serious highs and has. Welcome Alipay you know Nazis and there is no off season for me in that you know because of free agency that draft and everything else but one thing I'm gonna do I'm gonna clear time also must get -- To make sure. That -- out there -- that extra time there's no question ruled that you can give me I was inside implement -- Knew you were a good man and it's good I. Look will get over this next year will be better and next year instead Bentley and a Super Bowl way premiere will be your New Orleans I don't want. Thing about football and south Louisiana. It's 52 weeks of the year -- -- -- 65 days without the year. It -- choose prohibition beer that's right my thanks a million gonna talk about brother -- here.