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Mon, 23 Jan 2012|

Garland talks with Associate Director PEW Researchers Project for Excellence in Journalism, Mark Jurkowitz. Newt Gingrich attacked the media is doing it's job? Is this typical of media coverage?

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Gingrich's second wife so that you requested an open marriage when he was having an affair. With a woman who's currently. Married to and Gingrich just came unhinged. In and frankly listening to the media. Over the weekend to meet you was. Very upset. That the Newt Gingrich had done that. But. I consider myself an independent I considered then I can think for myself -- was watching via. The debate itself -- and I got to tell you -- herein should know -- torture against were at least a piece of the media. Our section of the media and not -- to meet you reclaim those but I think that we are. And I have I was upset by the -- I think we have a five trillion dollar debt. -- -- would almost convinced we get a trillion dollars in corporate opponents. Overseas the won't come home because of 35%. Corporate new income tax. I'm convinced that Stephen -- when he sent to prison Obama during dinner and reviewed book pregnancy and -- book Walter -- I said to President Obama when President Obama said when are we gonna bring apple jobs home. Many Serbs are gonna happen. You'll have call upon people. Those kind of things I'm only here a moment here when we're getting them out of -- scanners to only hear -- we're gonna have drops. And find a cushion somewhere in the middle -- the end of the water group for people. They care about that and don't tell me -- GOP. Republic can't in the care about it. Because your family values club. Just voted to garnish. Non black mold of the moment. So a little let's take a look at the media. Newt Gingrich could be the natural beauty in South Carolina by a margin of 54%. To fourteen. And that was her big conducted by a democratic polling firm. Only 14%. Said the had a favorable opinion of the media -- set 1077%. Said they had. An unfavorable opinion of the media. None of the four remaining Republican. Presidential candidates had anywhere near was slow and a favorable rating. As the media nor nearly as high as an unfavorable rating for the media. Ended 2011. Pew Research Center survey approved. Public view and show us some of these 7% of Americans believe uses upload to -- first. 66 believed news stories often or inaccurate. And the erosion of public trust in journalism and incompetence. Is increasing on a regular basis. Well. With all that says we -- it will live let's go to the experts and we have the -- good jerk which associate director pew research Project for Excellence in Journalism journalism. Or journalism might be a better term foreign prisoners mark thank you for come and my pleasure at a point what are -- -- -- board Pugh who is discovering. Americans view of the news. Well and as is that the numbers you quoted a part of Leo longitudinal survey -- mean -- -- over time. That is looked at these issues now since the mid 1980s. And if you you know when you look at things like -- you know our journalist political aren't -- public I think that the journalists are politically biased the answer is yes it's more predominant among Republicans but Democrats by a slim majority agree. Are the stories are offered -- an accurate as he's had two thirds. Influenced by powerful people and organizations about 80%. -- what does that say Clinton. It's says that in general as an institution and that the media how are distrusted. By a good chunk of the American public but it's also important to remember -- the question is phrased. Or asking questions about the news media until the tour on its sprawling universe. And we found out that way and you know you'd basically ask people well what do you think of the media. To some degree a lot of that the responses would have been people usually think of whoever they don't like to you know. If there a liberal they might take a summing -- Fox News if they're conservative and I think if somebody on MSNBC. And so the question and then and people say yeah I don't like it might you know that the U man I don't like the media. When you ask the question basically about how do you feel about. You know the media that you console Buick daily Paper your favorite TV newscast. The numbers change considerably -- there's still that real -- but they're considerably better than we are that they are some of it is. It's simply the idea that people default reaction to that question is can think of that saying the media the journalist and commentator. That they dislike the most -- -- experience. Is this something that's always been horrors music so now. -- -- It's getting more so I mean it's interesting just who is twelve on the survey numbers for second more. If you look at what we started this in 1985. What these guys started the pew research center for the people depressed. 55% of the -- of the people responded that it's not news organizations got their facts straight. That number is now down to 25%. Is -- to let's go to be you know. Highly professional. In 198572%. -- the media were highly professional. Now that number is down to 57%. Of care about how good -- job they -- 79%. Thought 95 that number is down to 62%. It changes their 95 we started the majority thought the media. Well -- for the majority 45% that the media were biased now that -- up to 63%. So across the board. You have you seen over time. -- the public's view of the media. Diminishing in many areas part of it is I think that we kind obviously -- what's happened in the last. Thirty years in the media how well one thing for you for sure. We -- the rise of a cable news which you know. On two of the three major networks in prime time is highly ideological. Now we had to DOD the proliferation. Expansion the creation of the Internet. In which people can you know. We -- he instantly go to the kind of the journalism more commentary that validates it vindicates their views so we see a great deal of so fragmentation. Of the media. Some degree it's become -- lot more ideological outlets than there used to be. I wore a long way out of Fort Campbell but remember this from the days when everybody sat around they. Television says it's 6:30 in the evening and believed every word that Walter Cronkite told -- Right yeah I take a break when we went to come back a look at a couple of a good field so we're talking about. -- -- -- more complicated question. Where do we go with tips. Only daily basis I collect from all of these men in that from all over the world of for the show I've got to two articles from England one from that is ruled. One from Australia in a whole bunch. Premiere in the United States. But but I do this for a living strong and try and understand everything from their review. Boom -- become the collapse the pushing. Where do we go from here or do we just send. Like Fox News it's as fair and balanced we hate Obama. Do do we go to CNBC. That decision a group of liberal Baldwin's love Obama. Do we just go where -- dogma is is is collect religion. Well we only gonna go into the house that we believe and we're coming right back we're talking about the media. And again remember give out our website -- the -- dot com chosen schedules click on that upper left hand corner click on my name scroll down Lucille homework the -- behind the shows. We'll be right back. AM FM and dot com and C news talk in sports leader 504260187. The or 866889. Always seventy. -- this show together over the weekend and not on leaders to report that shows more and more Americans are not trusting the news media and remember when. Obama is putting on Google news bulletin came across my a computer that -- Joseph Paterno who's that. But he wants. And this one. Picked up in the Washington Post today. The -- turn little into the meaning of report that he was that when it wasn't a -- consequences reporting unverified information from an extra -- -- shorts but also she just once again how quickly information including being an actor Brit Colin can move in the digital age. This false report from cold 45 minutes. Tom -- you have at this moment in time I have done. Mr. -- -- where it's an associate director pew research Project for Excellence in Journalism. More and more -- see this where there seems to be some sort struggle between the old media and the new way of communicating. Newspapers now. Show more and more importance of these idiotic comment sections that it got to be. Major. People out of -- car or people that have nothing better to do and given the importance of rankings. As news stories. And we see things like this where part of the media says it's wrong story and everybody jumps on it even happened within. In your last year. -- -- -- -- Dude do we arrived at a good place from this are we heading for a worst she -- to -- Well -- other -- -- people who received two sides of the -- here first rather then. Our number of people eyes -- you know and and personally -- -- some extent among them. Who believe that the openness of information that the tremendous sort of transformation that the media industry is having now it's fundamentally a good thing that it's democratize. The news media. Daddy it's that is the idea that obviously that there's so many more ways and something more people could be involved in communicating information. Whether it's. You know sometimes the flip side is the erroneous or premature reported Joseph Paterno step. The other side of it is the people who completed the Iranian revolution. You know in 2009. The revolution I should say uprising in 2009. In -- country where there was no mainstream western media able to report anything. So the idea that we suddenly opened the floodgates and there's so much more information is out there. May ultimately be a good thing how ever. It it also means that there's got to be real good amount of the kind of media literacy and the part of produce consumer these days. It -- technically he's out out. Fundamentally the you know what to pay attention to what not to pay attention to how to get a good balanced meal -- real issue for the media industry of course is everything that people worry about it. Italy is it's Ithaca newspaper industry argued that it almost every segment is there's a real economic. Going perhaps that Toro who's going to -- this yeah you could do about it during dinosaur. Years. I spent twenty years. -- incremental. And I noticed that something called public television came into being -- -- Cablevision came in the building and in the Internet and I said. Somebody's gonna help. -- have a high school education. You got an economic pot. And protecting major cutting it three ways basically an important and god and then a 10500. Now millions. How do you. Keep good how do you ever get back to at least an entity to that tries to be non bias in simply. Print information is that Walsh river. No it's not. Wait let me just get to -- get key you know. Your first point he obviously he would ever gonna revert to the days when newspapers -- a eighty owning a newspaper was licensed to have a 20% profit margin. The biggest it's the biggest problem. Economically for the immediate history of the world are a while Ali eyeballs look. Many of the -- have migrated to digital media web sites. There's tablets. Mobile devices there is -- the business model for monetizing those eyeballs. It has not yet worked out it's not going to be real legacy advertising. You know the the ads that you have on your TV station or the big -- department stores to advertise and newspapers it's going to have to be a series of different extremes. But that's that's lagging behind is is that. Fundamentally what's causing this economic crisis and the truth is. The thing that worries about economic crisis is that duque you know -- have been cut. Euros have been closed to new polls have been tightened. And at some point didn't you know they -- real good reporting used to be subsidized by TV stations and big newspaper newsrooms. And it's there that strapped for cash and money. We're gonna lose a lot of the sophisticated journalism that we used to have at the expense of journalism investigative journalism and foreign journalist -- overseas journalism. So I think this is really a battle to make sure that we had some -- subsidized quality journalism not simply information and not simply opinion. But nobody has that economic model. Not yet I mean everything it did not -- it could dissuade the quarter quote silver bullet has not yet arrived. You know people are experimenting they're you know they're experimenting with digital advertising strategies obviously pay walls. And generating some kind of subscription content is on the table big time. And and they are hoping that they can piece together enough. Revenue streams to replicate the old model but they anybody who tells you there there at this point would be foolish -- good news is that even though. People say they find the other media bias so that's sort of thing. That we've also seen surveys that show the people do want objective information that they're not come courting themselves the way that you mentioned before which is. I'm a liberal blogger for the Huffington Post a watch MSNBC on the conservative although the Drudge Report -- watch Fox News and that's all I want a -- about the world. Well boom whenever you read that to the public if you ask me puke puke you're gonna do the right where you've got to say -- keep in mind. This is a liberal Linda Davis and the conservative candidate I know you may now be able -- and believe portrait reading. Well -- you know and and certainly looked it it'd be foolish to think get more people aren't too personally what we call it journalism a validation these days IE. You know picking journalism that that matches their viewpoint rather than. Gain in full picture of what's happening in the world. But it -- I did I do think. That there's still a strong role for journalism in this country. To be the purveyors of objective information of the news. A credible news I think much the American public can still reacts positively yeah. Bloomberg quickly -- -- the real look at the pew research center's Project for Excellence in Journalism. Says all. There's coverage of politics for the UP it is quote. Warrior out of proportion to the public's interest and this Susan Blackwell a little bit from Australia. Talking about her predilection dude to cover or or the news media and out the public. Interest in politics it's -- If you can imagine the improbable circumstances that a complacent. Simply delete deliberate public. Substantially. And economic extremist with the new -- dashing in too deep pat practically every week. Can't hang on every word every story of every news media. That they've long since stopped subscribing. To an order to -- nomination process whose outcome. As for me I'm very outset. -- -- I mean all of this just just feels like a deterioration. Of of what used to be the media. Well the only thing I'd say about you know I'm not sure where that report coming from it's. No I don't -- incidentally -- that we produced. I mean there are obviously there phase of the -- and getting campaign particularly in the early stages. -- public interest is at that high is certainly isn't it -- the media interest but. You know -- for those who yearns. You know nostalgic leave the old days of the media. Do you know I'm not sure that's the direction to go and either you do for wanting many journalists are better trained than they ever were before you know if we now have what I like the college guys are media which means that information to kind of and so from the ground up through there you know you mentioned it before the paternal thing. Where anybody can get something pushed into the -- you know the public space. And then that creates problems we also suffered from a long time -- you know long time ago from the gate -- media were a handful of powerful journalist basically made decisions. Had a I had this crazy idea and that won't have -- until you pondering their political act in Florida. They look at both won him the politician in the business and what -- -- says as fact and then they give. Seems to be both sides of is that -- rendering -- right yeah. I mean. It is is that out of the question than ever media should first. Give all the information even if they did an editorial. But to give both sides of that I just read a Wall Street Journal. Editorial. To a forensic accountant. Or at least sounded like. He felt like the rich were taxed enough. And I should look here's the ball -- and until Wall Street Journal has had used their dependents that the Richard actually much and he several I think that's incorrect. And she won't Wall Street Journal reported that. They love and he's from monitor lying but I think two incorrect so well -- again. Obviously. Fairness and objectivity. -- Well they're significant. Journalistic attribute but they shouldn't be mistaken. For journalism's fundamental. Which -- to tell the truth. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- As closely as they can't what does that mean -- mean the more than journalists actually knows about the truth to the -- I bet that's should be in the story I eat. If -- reporter and you walk to that date you're walking across the street and east he would accidentally hit -- -- actually -- driver ran over a little kid and broke his bicycle. You don't need to go to the police and what happened and the police say while the drivers says. The boy you were typed in front of them and.

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