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I join me in the studio right now the world famous Lauren Tom better known as flirting girl -- He knew well that was kind of clarity who -- in -- to pull more Marilyn Monroe often end -- breath the and you gonna -- New Orleans like -- He hasn't nor -- slid thirty daddy girl. And for monogram express -- and -- but good to see get The Who always a pleasure is gonna see if the car -- the other -- turnout was pretty cool yeah we'll we'll little rock and I'd I'd that was the beauty cars -- my son and I got spent about 45 minutes and check in America we actually -- comic con. And a similar slot on -- cars and that was well worth the walk did you check out our voodoo dolls from the blue football I got a what the two girls with the pictures yeah Clinton compared to him.
Yes the cheerleaders at CI NFL version -- of arena football it's the voodoo that starts in. In March actually football doesn't and in February everywhere in New Orleans just starts arena football back who's in -- school.
And have fun all of -- not a lot of fun. All right well there is no argument over the voodoo stuff but there seems to be a very I mean there are two people who would added the Bhutto games I don't know they -- that. I'm not sure but the food that has Riordan. -- would not say this rear its ugly head because Buddha -- as to who just is just too cool. It's too many people identify themselves redo the food and they engineer. You know Bobby -- so there's -- fatherhood and nation we do that all the time but this this lawsuit has come up. And there was a headline that OK oh happy day. That that the months -- from bomb. Incorporated and the NFL have buried the hatchet so everything -- senate but mad and it's a little bit misleading.
the Brothers from Texas I might add that Texas Brothers have declared some sort of victory but it. For us the local vendor like -- express and -- like amnesty for -- because she's here but. We're not given -- we're not -- and we're gonna make the courts decide that who -- is owned by somebody but it's our opinion it's owned by no one except New Orleans.
Now we're also talking about.
If food incorporated or if you had done it or you flirting. -- if you had done that and you cut a deal with the NFL and you get to sell food that stuff with the NFL stickers on that. That is a licensing thing was just like the little it's the little thing -- though of the NFL the little shield. They trademarked that they can't trademark the letters NFL. But they trademark what they stand for and then go and all -- stuff and so -- if if if they cut a deal with the NFL and they can actually sell food that stuff would saints. Logos on amend NFL logos on the -- can't do that bright -- can't do that. But you all are saying that you cannot. Copyright. The words -- that you cannot trademarked the words -- that. In dealing with the anything I mean you can't put you don't puts things logo stuff on your output editor don't I don't do that and who else is involved it's 30 whoever story now sort of -- express -- express and -- you're okay. And so both yell just don't print a -- stuff and you'll say -- that his own is in public domain. Yell and trying to infringe on the NFL get output in the U do you sell in either what are you actually sell NFL stuff licensed stuff down.
No I'm not licensed nor really I think our logos. Myself far illustrator Lauren and her illustrators and artists -- obviously. Talented and her own right. It's that we we sell the spirit of New Orleans we don't sell food at. Who get incorporated logo is because frankly there blame in my opinion.
And our own -- on our own and aren't paying child. It's like I have a making groceries T shirt anybody could threaten making groceries -- T shirt because you can't trademark that that is in the public domain here.
It's the same same issue that's your argument to make your groceries is a term that everybody New Orleans has used for Ebbers. They had backed commercial making grocery fragments found tonight but -- Wednesday and only making groceries road Weinsteins could say the same thing. Rouse has to say the same things --
Texas and its New Orleans just like food that is -- Orleans originated back in the 1718 hundreds. Long long histories written these two. Fellows from Texas decide to trade market looked illegally did it. I'm not agree with the law in all cases I agree they owner trademarked of their logo I agree they own copyright of their logo. But I for the life of -- cannot understand how anybody can say. Anyone owns who -- And that's -- that's where we're at we're here we're gonna stand. Or know what a court and in this case the court is going to be. A jury. I did twelve. People from -- owns a safe food that is owned by two Texans. Will be a surprise how well who were in -- to win that we're gonna we're gonna make someone say who owns and it's our opinion some public domain. No unknowns that we all own that we all can does.
A federal court over here yes sir -- courtroom whose court is -- brokers -- are Aries yes yes. Mario garden OK and so they're gonna I mean you all pushing for jury trial there are other people have gone ahead and settled. Cracked you know they settled with. And aiming to go back to sort -- we talked about this when it first happened to -- it there in 2009 and in fact often the same said they -- and they backed off and everything else. These guys put together a song and had Aaron Neville saying it and they trademark to that. But the trademark was allowed to -- I mean I'll say now exactly what I said then if Spain. Had fought nonstop from that moment for word and had maintained. Even through the lean years and it kept their trademark up and kept everything else open run and then not I would see their argument but they let it collapse and they came back. When -- became. It it grew on its own now as far as I'm concerned frankly -- that kind of grow on its own to Begin -- it because it's not like they sent out one day and wrote the words food that.
And then and then they -- put in other words it wasn't their original -- idea trade. And we only saw them in 2009. When the saints were on the role to the Super Bowl you've been -- enough to know about any thing.
Exactly that's exactly what happened in you talked about trademark enforcement Newton basically it's like a football player has the ball and drops it and picks it up and drops it and picks it up when you can't score that touchdown needed not pulled on that ball so that's one claimed the second is they don't have a valid pretense. -- you know it it having to trade.
Mark they're putting it should work together to Begin with egg -- I don't then it's copyright I can do that look I can sit down and draw outlook -- cartoons track and I put them on our website and they have. Below copyright even though I don't sit there and countering each in each and every one of them. There there. Posted here you can see them is painfully obvious my name's on I created him the first place they show opens on this website over here I -- those things cracked you know. If you wanna light press one up and put -- on T -- and start settlement. Now want a book. Okay but you can draw your own version of the same thing that I did. And I really can't do much about it right and get out and give you a dollars but I'm not gonna give to that was. Well the thing of it -- I would cut a deal with you but you know for quite a lot my Mike I drew a cartoon about the saints. Vietnam running the event and it's a book it's a school it's a big Boston's got a big yellow for early -- and an assist Super Bowl or bust. And there's a big X through the Super Bowl part in a big underline under the bus and notes the road trying to send to my answer is that Indianapolis for the -- anybody else can do that anybody else can draw something along those same lines. And that's not a damn thing I can do about it but they can't have my drawn was the same thing here I'm I -- I'm. I'm saying this is the argument did you doesn't put enough -- that same thing here view YouTube they got there -- that you got yours I think -- also is not about T shirt sales look we're both. Small business owners were both trying to do the right thing we're both from here we make -- living here we feed our children from our profits and it's all about. It's not about T shirt sales it's about fool owns for conclude that a -- period that's it I don't think anybody else.
And then also that the issue of the trademark claim is that you know they're trying to say that people are buying who -- because they're think they're buying that pink shirts. Nobody is buying my shirts thinking that I -- marketing Ehud -- shirt that's not the case here. So we're not misleading the public and that's what they're trying to say we're celebrating the public's praise for the clean.
Don't -- that that's the question 2601 point 7866889087. He is our toll free line some people have settled. But withdrew that -- others that -- they are narrow -- hold -- you don't want your day in court others others have to have whatever. But someone their day in court and the U three want to be in court so they're gonna get I -- to sit in front of the quote poison the jury but who won't -- that. Is it. Make him legally trademark their particular design but can -- 087 years are told -- joining me in the studio is. Marin Tom who is the -- girl and Keith moody who owns monogram express two with a three people entities that still have bomb. That are still waiting for their day in court over this who -- stuff there was an article on -- headlines who dat nation is celebrating because the NFL in Canada incorporated. They cut a deal would each other's face still hadn't cut a deal with you guys lament the fact is you youth youth three. We're sitting under I wanna use the term.
Umbrella although we are we were sitting under the NFL's umbrella their like will carry the flag will do all the heavy lifting you just sit back we'll get this handled and they just. They pulled the rug from under arrest basically it's not a win for The Who dat nation and time's picks ahead.
They're not from non New Orleans obviously so. It's it's a Davey and Goliath thing right now there's three small businesses and what you guys were yell or prepared to go to court mature repair compared to go to court with somebody else carry the ball. Now the ball someplace else and now you got between now and April so hire a lawyer hire lawyers -- get don't get up and running. And and fight this argument and a but the argument is again who also that if they want a trademark it's like it's like the saints don't -- both learned a leak. They owned -- they own. That shade of black they owned that sheet of gold. Collectively as. Collectively as the one with the Florida only in the NFL logos and all they own that stuff so -- mean it's like what in this when you see that you say -- You know. And I mean people don't actually hear their big saints fans what people say who would -- games people say that. -- I mean they've turned. The hornet of the -- enjoyed forward only available designed for that you've got I mean I don't know who you are disarm O'Keefe put. Although school flags every those towels you got all those different colored leaves. I mean you got Christmas bird always getting used to Furrey got -- a pretty cool I mean for somebody else to come along to make Easter Christmas and and Halloween flirt -- and on August.
I'm -- that's correct we have you know when you when you create something from scratch you copyright you go as far as trade marketing if it becomes part of your sales. Or business mark. But the bottom line is. You know we got. Basically sixty days to prepare for trial federal trial on mountain and municipal type of thing a federal trial that frankly. Was on like show we said it's under we are under the umbrella of the NFL on the same sin. Everybody else collectively they are fighting the battle. And then all of -- sudden it is pulled right from under assign -- an idea I think you know it's.
Mean I'm sure they cut a deal on the that and idealists like private -- deal come out now. Come out -- federal court clearly prime that we think what happened with the fact that the nagging guys didn't turn and something for our request for discovery and refined 101000 dollars to the NFL.
So -- the NFL is like luck.
We'll let you go off this -- I'll -- purely speculation that you necessarily spell they don't put me on the radio saying that's tourney and out not like that yeah. Now listen the timing on that was a I don't know what the fact of the matter is viewed three and story bill are gonna go to trial toss to restore right now if you are you to a source -- X.
is not gonna settle they even if they come to the thing -- drop that they can drop it but it's my position as owner monogram expressed to make sure we know. As a collective group of who dat nation who owns who -- I'm of the position that no one owns and everybody owns that we all enjoy it we can make our own designs and logos and shirts and what ever.
Or go to phones romance both the -- OK I've seen the signs with who in the.
Be like they do that's my design -- not in any attorney mark that falls under parity long so we're OK to produce that.
It's a parody -- cannot make that. Can make -- him out my design front burner is another word I can do that with -- little emperor a thing I just got to use different letter saying that because the phrase is in the public domain -- so I feeling keep his last I didn't okay cool. Let's go to the phones Ryan's own -- thanks for hanging on -- first of -- really out.
Faced by -- on the -- and thanks for comment through that route that is public domain yeah you right. I mean let's be real about it my parents but you put you put -- done about it not that not veritable -- Thibodeau mark for all -- area. You when you were bound -- by U. If -- come knocking on the door and -- grandmother wondered how the first beggars you don't know is gonna come moderate or get at the bill.
Well my -- all spoke French so what should listen -- that French yeah.
The deeper into English yeah that's part of our heritage that what our language. I bought it they are old and it's not good idea that they listed gold beat them -- but no. That you can't get to be active Dolan who amount of that no we -- in the public.
So I don't think -- is what what you don't think those two guys from Texas owned -- that.
Always a couple. Either do my brother. And a commercial you know wouldn't put up Oprah and -- no -- city. Are you serious.
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What do how many women in public domain and I cannot and even if you get a judging you go to federal court by -- that judge.
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You know where and a birdie at public domain did he need to be like -- who got it right. Our old brother well dollar he needs it seems. That at one I don't know --
Well meg gonna happen that's why they make federal judges for life so being got to face those consequences which you bring up a good point -- Mora brought up a good point -- or Tommy. Yes they -- Monday about that. Is you're gonna get twelve who that's to be on the jury. I'm wondering if now the a -- that incorporated are gonna say we can't get a fair hearing here so we don't wanna move to somewhere else because every body who's going to be in the jury pool down here. It is something that I don't I don't think you work so I think it's -- civil thing -- no I don't I don't know either it's I mean chancellor said that is gonna get twelve mood at that determine who won't soon be.
Okay most of what would this report. The same thing to -- my child abuse. And I mean -- keep it down you that we banner through revenue put -- or Greg -- you go to BLU go to my.
You know it would it would either it would either go to Baton Rouge or Lafayette because that's where the two that's what the other two federal our courts are rouge Lafayette.
But my point is regarded -- where you go yeah women don't they count you guess what it's think.
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Ten dollars please.
How about away cost ten dollars parking area itself up and follow our top forty -- voted for monogram expressing here to talk about who knows who that there is they wanna go to for the NFL has settled with -- incorporated. And but they still want to go to court they want they want a judge to say who that is in the public domain and a story asking you is the term food that in the public domain. Nobody is arguing that their logo and their brand their design they can trademark and other people can't take it actually. Take the words they can't. They can't not print shirts with the little -- logo like you did they can come up with their own and they can print and solemn -- make no -- you know HO old.
We and a woman and now all the same food that yet. I can't print shirts that had that orange circle with huge act which is the hijackings let that I've never done that and I don't plan to because I can't.
Yeah but they you know put -- the actual words food that as far as your concerns and that's what I'm asking you. Is it can you copyright those words food that so that the only people you're ever gonna buying. A shirt or towel or perhaps from in the worst food and on and are these guys can they do that. I don't think so. And frank and honest I don't think so for a lot of reasons but let's keep our got a bunch of text hang -- incumbency and -- in recent -- text message. Not only does a party have an obligation to renew trade marks the same party must not abandon the market. Meaning they must continuously act to protect. I. The issue. And there you go -- their trademark expired that's one of the arguments shuttle lands a couple of times and here we got me read this one this is directed that you keep the man on your show q.'s column on several -- Texans they were born and raised in Orleans. Your -- sounds very jealous with a chip on his children.
John not jealous -- all I mean choose and is live in to leave New Orleans and live in Texas is their right only solve them actually. Who aren't in 2009 when they came back to you do a money grab with The Who -- thing. They don't live here in New Orleans.
I lived in New York are coming -- back here slow you know but the fact of matter is they they grow up here but so what you do have insurance you have which it you're actually have a chip on your show brush that off for us.
Because I think that's a slim -- and -- that is not gonna I mean I'm a retired marine so I kind of sometimes sound a little harder than I should but. And my wife reminded me of an all time have a chip on the businessman trying to feed my family trying to support to that nation's. I just -- determination I wanna litigate that. You wanna be able to walk out of court -- it's it's but don't know words what that. Along said the people more illegal and I love not does not mean just skewed to people that's really what has -- my Graham expressed it has nothing do with forger we sell -- we. We were small business owners. -- belongs to the people in my opinion I just want to court. The jury or whoever whenever judges once you decide it. Once and for all put this thing the rest so we can all go back to support -- who dat nation and things that we believe --
He settle it won't be solved and they're gonna keep on doing this other local businesses were not the only people that print things that the -- here that we're just the three businesses better.
Don't -- right well I'm well. Let me take joins conquer these -- hang in our time to -- thanks for -- muscular language which bring about all us.
Outrage is great it is it is if you look at me and then -- ultimately -- the target you have accompanied. I understand it will born here but they don't live here right now at the outset there's an idea of someone just like the saying that they know who would it.
They deliver -- eleven or beautiful I care but the fact is there there argument is still I don't think. Valid. In in this like a text -- said they let. They let their trademark. Slip twice and this -- if they what do trademarked it back then and pushed it the entire time when the saints got to be the Super Bowl. And that really rose up and they have been may have a whole time. I would I would agree that they have an argument not necessarily an argument they can win the but at least have an argument but as far as I know I don't Clinton trademark slip and I don't think those -- coincidence they came back in 2009 in the same -- I mean you know that's my business and I mean if you wouldn't make money off of also on the -- sure do and by the -- now when the ban on our campus so.
Beckett and and that's my next question what were they when the -- the bag -- mares.
Texas I don't know I don't know how to -- They're from here I don't know when they moved there are I don't know if the ever had a bad on their head don't know. All I know is I don't I I in this argument I believe there argument I think those two words horror. They are public domain you know it's it's.
Half like make congress raise its like ten abroad I mean it's all those things aegis can't. I own it's things that we say it's things that not everyone in the nation says making groceries no we do here and it's in the public domain -- are trying you know what I used to watch.
Different strokes were announced that younger red TV show and had Gary Coleman and had a prayer which commonwealth. And everybody I mean that that was a catch phrase across them. If you ever shirt that says what you tomorrow Willis and a caricature of Gary Coleman on it you're stepping on some -- and if you just say what you talking about. And you know those characters created that so those Americans -- created that so bay you know but just the words -- you talk about what a question mark. It out they have they isolated that with the Willis and and the caps fans are creating -- but the first part of that that you that you -- trademark or tricked our copyright that is not supposed to be able to do letters -- alphabet words generic -- so when I trademarked flirty girl had a huge issue with not being able to have the word girl.
I had to trade market together with his big ordeal like are you trying to trademark just -- itself now it's flirting Carol collectively. So I mean there's so many parameters but their trademark number one aside the fact that they abandoned that. It's not viable to Begin -- should've been able to get it so that's just really worry --
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I think there -- I'd be at any big bump its people and I'm wondering why all the not what -- eat -- early and a well at love in the ninety. No I would make is not and that was yeah it was you I.
Yeah same club with that same club was owned by them. The monetary and went out and it. Right in the saints threw in the Super Bowl motherboard. -- the pay a membership but did you believe. Me they were making money.
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I am to get paid well that they put it right. About Romney d'alene Donnybrook incorrectly that it -- well balanced it was but I like platinum but it -- hit every year anyway at seven. A glove and IBM and then found it being it is very idiotic -- wound but we will wow. You know this thank bloom on the regular we went there.
Why -- 850 fools Eminem. Wouldn't say fifty flows were about to be -- they only sat way up and America what it take its weight fifty a pop. And they called themselves they fifty fools they also out of the last throw away upon. They had bad stupid they are matured since I may -- people that's a great story -- and in about five bunch of friends in college -- that I love that. And I'm 850 full sense T shirt -- well Fred Graham 4050 now home. -- how -- after dominating at 550 fold less when I have a fight -- I appreciate you Carl thanks for 2670. Let's keep rocket Roman. Markets on a cellphone thanks for comment Markowitz say.
Put everybody's saying are finally this. People that the plane and I'm no problem want to make money. They got -- little -- don't act is that that this some history some legal history behind the thing I know little bit about it Villanova got. They did this weight back 1520 years ago they spent a lot of money will quarter song with -- Nobody was saying -- that. -- you know the song -- so I didn't play for apple musician that played on it they still get paid on when it's played. And to create the label that put that they have been to a contract with the tank signed a contract. You can contract and saying and -- of -- contract contracts that the I'm liable official arrival of that I think the issue say that can make an agreement. In 1990 when we got started it popular again but it's about the failure on the severity of it. When -- started. It's -- on these people are able they want to say that the contract -- a lawyer -- said that we have a contract. -- there -- have a contract -- but I think quite expire. And the contracts that in perpetuity that these people at the right to that label put the IQ is that we started isn't it. And and -- that -- that it got have a contract without the can when -- the gap type sport. That's just bit the value at this spent fifteen years ago now the everybody wants there's. Complain about they don't -- they don't want our but you know it did it strictly political point you know whoever is playing about a week is or make money some of the don't know what well good to be good or just wanna make money. But for the money everybody and -- a very reasonable longer than they just war -- debt which rightfully they care and the sites. But the one that infringed its own. And that's what other that -- often now which I don't know a lot about but anyway.
This is -- the NFL nation. It was a settlement with the NFL in the NFL was actually involved analysts to.
It never felt that Obama fell as the thing but I don't accept -- Although Benson own this -- so obviously it's so intertwined with the NFL but they own thing together for quite the merchandise. So they actually had a contract with all of the above. The label will be called the boy and good. And don't -- contract they make money are they agree on the anxious about it skipped a few years and I'm excited. Simply as we get outside of the contract that you put it oh.
That's also under the impression that that the saints own the words shoot that themselves they can own the logo that they came up with this NFL can on the logo the NFL came up with but you can't the argument that the -- making here. Is that nobody can owned -- words who -- They can't. We don't question and that's why they're going to -- out or are where they -- they have been allowed to trademark the phrase he got until of those twenty years back that's or having to deal that's why they're going to court that's that's why they haven't quote settle.
What -- about. They're musician is there -- the right people there are producers that in the show business still in business they do business here in Auburn don't do -- fifth one year. -- if they do business and other places around the country because aware of the stupid that they just want upbeat -- the people who just. You know they have rights to what they average -- and then determine what sort about it argue about it what it's first it's not. A bad people. The -- they probably nobody else was claimed -- fifteen years ago and things that nobody knew what.
I got I got somebody who just said they did they were they were chanting food that when they were cheerleaders back in the seventies. So you know I'm an -- are read the email to rewrite and now here or not. You know I mean it's so it's an argument across nuts -- listening to -- why are all talked about. Talking amount and that's why they're not settling that's why they want to go in front of a federal judge and have the judge say. This is the deal and if that's the case Delhi the repeal or they'll live with the decision but -- and their minds and and a lot of people's minds the words. Food that. Or not trademarked by anybody so that no matter what way shape reform. I wanna put -- down on something I don't know I don't have to pay them a royalty if I use food that. With bear logo then yes if I just use the worst food at the way I want to enough.
what happened what are you sensitive to a contract they forgot they -- they try to use of the act -- the argument. It was too afraid -- benefit for the people not to have any rights to it at all. Thanks basically that won't be able contact and that it violated contract it says a draft but well -- both public -- says. Can we don't look bad but they have so that we can do that now. So if they brought about them in the end like red -- and that's where it's sensible -- Couple years now. So this strange -- out that they would it would take it and that and they can duplicate that begins now they can vote in the public domain. That should say it.
If if this thing in the NFL. Wanna cut a deal what the monasteries and you and enix will be exclusive -- their logos. -- and good for them make that make money but to tell somebody else now you cannot put the -- school and that together unless you pay me money. I I don't think that's right I don't that's that's true. That's too broad -- the next thing you know somebody else is gonna come and trademark to other words that are gonna go together and send somebody else is gonna.
Even have to do a couple of Atlanta.
I mean hey you know what. How many people come opposite way he had baby to me in my gonna demand -- dollars -- them every time they say -- and -- I think it's pretty much given and that's a trademark saying that I say. You know but the fact of the matter is. Somebody wants to print up a T shirt as they draw my picture on it and -- elegant home -- here.
If you had a strong public yet maybe you have a play called -- yet maybe you'd had all sorts of -- but -- he had baby. And you -- below it and -- somebody that situation there quickly let them get through it making money on attrition are local and yet they -- the popularity that you that. I'm only develop and don't -- look at a problem with back and you'll be protected but soccer ball. -- it's what they're not totally guilty of anything and I totally out of anything but there are some legitimate claims that they have to this flirting.
I I agree that they have a claims two -- wording in the way they do it which you can I. It there's no way if if this will open up a can of worms that nobody would ever be able to close because I will be in front a trademark lawyer trademark in every three word phrase I can come up with and I think that's. That's the problem and that's why -- that is a public domain by all means this -- can cut a deal with the NFL and -- make a million dollars a year. By the NFL using their logo good on yeah but you can't tell somebody else they can't put the two words who got together and put on the back of a T shirt because that that's what can I want you can't do I -- time you brought some great stuff to the conversation I appreciate the call but I got -- way back for more after this.
