Roethlisberger makes -- just Bulldog signals out of the shot clock got the. That's -- pass go away -- easier yeah. Cool cool. It's not to go around the National Football League resolve was Sunday's marquee matchup that was in new got the Pittsburgh Steelers. Surging taking on at that point down the red hot New York Giants but it was a Steelers that would put the freeze. On the giants' offense limiting them to just a 182 real it's a total hole in the game Alex raskin of covered the UFC east. And the Giants for CBS sports -- -- Alex. I thought Pittsburgh was playing well but when you go to -- you opt to take on a team like the Giants although they've got a their best and some the last few games and you don't -- in the fourth quarter comeback in your release them now. That was very impressive what Pittsburgh did in New York Sunday. Yeah you know outside of a couple of mistakes in the secondary and they were really -- stupid hasn't appeared -- It looked like Pittsburgh pretty much everything I want to do. They're great great kick and punt returns. They're patient and if they weren't always look into the big plate downfield complete it and -- couple big plays. And I regret and I think most of his yards came after first contact. Now -- -- what is your take on this and I guess scores Coughlin can't get away with this it depends on the team where. Is that it over and over again as gamesmanship. Well within his team worries talent and defense in and basically saying they were playing soft or what. Well he specified that you know that we're playing soft for the first happened it was right in the second half -- and the only real big one. Was the one right at the end of the game. But for the first -- yeah. They actually were like not. And every man in the locker room today we are talking do you know Chris Canty said -- Michael Bolton center at bigoted tackle a it wasn't a problem gap assignments likable except for the most part everyone of their gap. It was just a matter. Not executing the tackling and it -- Chris Canty added. That it would also that they were swarming to the tackle they were watching guys that tackle but it's got to be a team effort that sort of back. Alex raskin is -- is around the league -- was the NFC east in the New York Jets CBS sports that count Alex it's almost like New York didn't play. Philadelphia Dallas and Washington all lose so -- -- still keep a -- lead in the NFC east so you're gonna lose one not to get the week where everybody else in the division -- -- is -- -- -- division and we talked about how wonderful this division is and how competitive it is and you look around the division right now and it's kind of terrible. And the Giants may end up in the play out through no fault -- there well -- the Redskins right now with the injury that they have on defense. Certainly there -- inconsistent on offense and did you know right at Dallas to a doctor to implode. Now our Alex what what is your take on this. And you look at the pressure of -- and obviously everyone is optimistic a big win indicate goal of the season against the saint. You got RG three but then. -- like coach Shanahan essentially what thrown in the towel. As far as making the playoffs if you look. In his third season their fourteen to 27. But I mean how can they be an acceptable it and what does it take as far as Shanahan. Is he dead discouraged at guided it in any closer December. And is like almost thing I would like to be playing any meaningful games that to be a twelve team. Well you know I think -- still haven't. Outside chance just because they have at the moment not that every Europe's strong. -- -- to another big Corretja. The thing I like really separates you -- these. Adapted that are sent for. RT three specifically you know David cart weekly rent in game. The Giants backup quarterback he played bad offense being in key to the captain. And that it actually to complicated system that it really turned into a lot of naked bootleg so I'll read options -- -- victory. And you know for the most part I'd done well with that this year I'm excite -- at the park today. To that topic and it carried over the Nazis are really excited about what they could become a part that your you know play it doesn't matter -- One expect -- it -- Super Bowl. But building momentum for next year to be very eager. Now Alex when you look at obviously we're involved Sean Payton and we still view Sean Payton is the things head coach. We all know the contract situation would you look at. I'm Jason Garrett any potential coach of by the Dallas Cowboys and how Jerry Jones and -- -- be hands on you know on the matter what. And out Eagles a lot of proven -- winning coaches might not want to be in and environment where Jerry jones'. It is gonna metal and and really tells them head coaches with the game. Yeah it's not a situation that. You want switched into Dallas and didn't -- that they're in it you're like Bill Parcells and it was sort of a big deal would it -- and beat crop of blowing him to Dallas. That's different but it to replace a guy. In this situation right now it's it's it's not what you want at the end you're still couldn't -- with -- that you'll a lot of the same problem that they have. On the cheap right now that Bryant might not be any more disciplined next year than he is right now. I would say Sharon -- should do every QB get back at the seat back with the guys that you know back with the guys that try accident at a work. Alex raskin knew -- was in AFC east. Follow the CBS sports dot com and also becomes the New York Giants Alex always a pleasure thank you so much for the time. I think Ellis received in the commit the east right now New York's new world and control with a six and three market area of the team in the division. Is a three win team Philadelphia. Dallas and Washington it's about we talk about the NFC. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yeah that's why in November or was -- you know the south and -- that you release them now. That was very impressive what Pittsburgh -- New York Sunday. Yeah you know outside of a couple of mistakes and secondary and they were really just stupid pass and appeared they. It looked like that -- pretty much did everything they want to do. They're great great kick and punt returns. They were efficient on offense if they weren't always look into the big plate downfield that they did -- -- couple big plays. And and Isaac Redman I think most of his yards came after first contact. Now Alex -- what is your take on this and I guess scores -- can't get away with this it depends on the team where. Is that it over and over again as gamesmanship. Well within his team worries talent and defense in and basically saying they were playing soft or what. Well he specified that you know that we're playing soft for the first happened it was right in the second half red and the only real big one. Was the one right at the end of the game. But for the first -- yeah. They actually were like not. And every man in the locker room today when we are talking to a you know Chris Canty said likable that it -- tackle they. It wasn't a problem gap assignments likable except for the most part everyone in -- -- gap. It was just a matter. Not executing the tackling and it is. Chris Canty added. That it was thought that they were swarming to the tackle they were watching guys at tackle but it's got to be a team effort that sort of back. Alex raskin is -- is around the league -- was the NFC east in the New York Jets CBS sports that count Alex it's almost like New York didn't plate. Philadelphia Dallas and Washington all lose for the -- still keep a padded lead in the NFC so you're gonna lose one that picket the week where everybody else in the division -- If this that this division that we talked about how wonderful this division is and how competitive it is and you look around the division right now and it's kind of terrible. And the Giants may end up in the play out through no fault of their well there's the Redskins right now with the injury that they have on defense. So -- either inconsistent on offense and -- you know right now at Dallas to a doctor to implode. Now our Alex what what is your take on this. And you look at the pressure of -- and obviously everyone's optimistic a big win -- of the season against the Saints. You got RG three but then -- stay like coach Shanahan essentially what thrown in the towel. As far as making the playoffs if you look. In his third season their fourteen to 27. But I mean how can they be an acceptable it and what did you take as far as Shanahan. Is he dead discouraged -- -- -- it in any closer December. And is like almost thing I would like to be playing any meaningful games that to be a twelve team. Well you know I think -- still have an out. Outside chance just to have at that moment on that -- you have strong. Run sent another that they -- -- it. The thing I like that really separates the Wheaties. Adapted dad aunt sent for. RT three specifically you know David cart weekly rent in game. Which I expect a quarterback keep -- that being in key to the captain. And that it actually to complicated system that they've really turned into a lot of Q did you actually I'll read options aren't victory. And you know for the most part -- done well with that this year I'm excited at the park today. To that -- and it carried over the -- I'm really excited about what they could become as hard this year you know play it doesn't matter what. No one expected -- it would super ball. But building momentum for next year to be very very. Now Alex when you look at obviously we're involved Sean Payton and we still viewed as a coach. We all know the contract situation would you look at it. I'm Jason Garrett any potential coach of by the Dallas Cowboys and how Jerry Jones and -- dominant be hands on you know on the matter what. And out Eagles a lot of proven a winning coaches might not want to be in an environment where Jerry jones'. It is gonna metal and and really tells them -- coaches with a -- Yet if the situation that you wanted to switch into Dallas and visit at the that are -- and if you're like Bill Parcells and it was sort of a big deal -- -- and beat -- of -- -- to Dallas. That's different but it to replace -- guy. In this situation right now it's it's not what you wanna be and you're still -- -- -- that -- -- -- -- -- problems that they have. On the cheap right now that Bryant might not be any more disciplined next year than he is right now I would say Sharon -- should do everything we can't get back at the saint. Back with the guys that he goes back with the guys that trot to go to work. Alex raskin who comes in AFC east. Follow the CBS sports dot com and also becomes the New York Giants Alex always a pleasure thank you so much for that. I think Ellis received in the commit the east right now New York's -- willing control with a six and three market area of the team in the division. Is a three win team Philadelphia. Dallas and Washington it's about we talk about the NFC. We saw as a fan with these we've come but while called out and -- so -- have to India and and I sat out but it's did not in the west and had trouble kept. Yeah that's why in November or was light. You know the south and east and you say hey maybe nine and seven. You know you'd you'd definitely have a solid chance you know -- -- that while -- You know spot you have a big. No realistically. You know that will always treasure have to get that -- wins if you going to be a playoff team are to come on the percentages. And Devin Hester at single safety to our left in his 100 NFL game August 30 birthday it's. Well I think around. Picked up my well. -- What don't -- And they are off to a hot dog. Making comparisons to that 85 Chicago Bears defense here to help with talk about. The red hot -- John Mullin covers the Chicago Bears for Comcast sports dot net and also. -- was the NFC north division John thank you so much for the time and got some offensive and it -- -- was they could score like this Bears defense that could. I mean you look at it is being phased out I mean there's several guys that you could say -- MVP in the league this year -- barrel -- -- he just turns things don't go. Urlacher did it the other day I think down when you get this mindset that you Lovie Smith say this is something we practice the system that we do. And nobody over the course of the last so many years to love he's been there does it better more consistent in Chicago bay defense. And you -- -- and every team talks about it every team. Talk -- -- well you know gorgeous to it. Averaging just Lovie Smith got -- -- -- part of how they think and yet is in a local one of the things -- -- He's not one of these guys and just go for the big hit -- just -- on a strip. In order would you like shake it took control coach for the ball because of this article at least sort of rap star guard out. As he's on the ball and it's a very. Again I know -- -- but I I've watched this guys that you can't believe what should pursue. It's a combo of a stroke and at tackle and all the hurdles it was and it's all which are mine. And coaches really do. And tries it without chuck -- equality track which. She wears a scope -- the although the picture or whatever. That's -- -- to who has ever played and now he's a veteran leader recognition. And then Dunn looking and NFC and -- now this team has had. The Bears member of that team the Green Bay Packers. -- degree immediately criticized all year thread there. No lack of effort a lack of production on the ground and -- you look against the Cardinals they broke 376. Yards. As the most since gaining 202 against the Browns I want to go back to 2009 October. And you look a lot of different players contributing Roger is Randall -- starts Alex green. At 25 plus yards rushing and the first time that haven't since 2003 so. You know people do talk about the Cardinals defense and they got out of four and all starts so. I don't know -- even as great as the Bears are an -- the perception whether right now. To me at the Packers when it comes crunch time they still the team to be in north. Well they are right action -- for a urgent that the better when you ignore. Actually stole Bristol and that. You know the puck -- go to twelve minutes ago ago accurate billable occasionally there yet but look broken against the Bears some. It's still come back to 212 and I actually stoke a couple too that he chipped it claimed that he -- hamstring that on the very just one on IR today go to Easter. Chip away at. Are you below you mills was Greg Jennings down. They they certainly have wonderful outs surviving the interest of 2010. But the players this year are better prepare beat him in the north that your so. I still think and old dog catching his opinion I clearly -- ignored. It is the best division in football right now even with the Vikings shall. It's on the cardinal amateur the Vikings are registered a real good you you can argue with the -- and -- -- no easy game it was too. Knowing you look at it I think this season's can't take all live on like the 2000 team season where. Atlanta on May be the top seed Duke in Chicago and Green Bay Mann -- cantonment. Let's face it Chicago matches -- -- out -- it would everybody in the conference with the exception of Green Bay and they could very well get them at home in the post season again. Do you quote people didn't believe Picard mature and I'm not sure you -- you. You know it went on the Vikings are or whatever five or are you really have a -- and when -- get Essex. And not you hit in the LA they could go sixty -- -- until they win some in January in -- as humbling even. Like John I did take is that they can be undefeated. In now look at kind of the scenario happened beginning this year. The Houston Texans everyone's all pulled primetime the Packers come to town would guess what happened. I -- they hear you can have a -- -- team in the Packers you know and in not a commit defeated. Do you feel four point underdog at home that probably not go against the Packers. Simply because I don't know the mines and until you know it till Atlanta prove his yeah definitely that was going to be what they do in the playoffs. -- -- hasn't achieved certainly my answer at this level. The Packers. They don't they couldn't build it could be you know here you're well pretty good. You know just got -- go out and won one bowl wild card. Cochran on -- And -- -- and -- according to prove to themselves. That you you know sometimes with the skill level -- about -- and -- Trammell and. Well we got to look at the mental thing. Do you know the Saints have beaten the Falcons in out of the last twelve games. That have to be missed mine. -- and -- -- article -- could be could be. But that -- part of this weekend you prepare and actually what you want him. Well they're coached Green -- -- right exactly John Mullin took over the Chicago bands in the in NC -- the Comcast sports net Chicago John thank you so much for the -- First and goal from inside the seven the Vikings showing blitz off the -- make most of what he did throw it looks like. Good touchdown right side. In a pass happy National Football League you were treated to a heavy dose I mean they can't -- those. Rushing on a Sunday out west between Seattle in Minnesota are the Vikings to an 87 yards. 243 came on the ground of the Seattle Seahawks 385 total yards. 195. Came on the ground they so -- beat. Mallard is here Obama announced that right Dave radio host on Sports Radio KJ are in Seattle and the Seahawks right in the thick of things for the wild caught hi David it's what you thought -- out to be. At the halfway point of the season. Ha. Ha thank you walk in Europe now and it. It. Appeared well pot spot you know and bought a business like you know not. What has been that. -- action would. Not be -- has been at that one -- -- In. The actually shall it -- Love Dave take you know I just I just got a good drug hello -- UK -- you know so I just have the. I need it and they -- even better on the game. -- -- Exactly it was like Dave got -- I did approach this and I'm from Louisiana why -- -- Alabama. If it's its like wherever galore out where you grew up with who you grub with Dave are you from Seattle Washington. I -- a little -- here for thirty. Okay so why would UBS -- ankle line. Yeah Washington to kick -- obviously -- game. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It's. Changed but you know -- question. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Would -- but no huddle and their. Games and the -- in April in scoring. And totaled beat an ala. And they're. -- -- It was probably watch it again they want -- also get better record that we why. -- a football games. Are being here not -- them. Now but they've. Look at that not an -- vagueness. Because I'm looking -- -- -- -- -- now this is the State's defense you know they given of the 170 yards a game Russian. But look at aged Peterson boyish -- in a look a pretty normal 182 yards that was his best Everett. Since 2008 now Nomar Simon did his job harder -- it or were you surprised agent Peterson ran that well as the Seahawks defense. Well I was not surprised artillery and not look like he's preaching hatred Peter kept. Him out right now and artillery -- -- -- -- -- -- or more votes came and first I. It spot came on one why not give credit to. They were shot down or your second and how much opportunity to -- first -- Think numbers from game against Minnesota it was terrible it was so back to -- pro -- -- and perhaps somebody else. -- -- -- The thirteen points -- at that gave this year were guys that had been like. Right or Tom Brady and Adrian Peterson and they played talk. They played partners they plate on a plate Matt Stafford and they played it -- And number -- belts or -- back. After going back schedule I'll take it -- Now but in -- Dave look at the Cardinals I mean hasn't struck midnight on that team. Not Toledo going against the Green Bay Packers but boy Arctic and all the greats RD gotta be suited as a point. The Cardinals are not. Okay oh and eat they don't what you want to arrest a late -- look at their spiritual body. What job -- -- figure it out all his career. That's about it that -- and it is terrible quarterback play there is terrible but it is being sent wide receiver. There are horrible then they start or call it actually going to be lucky to go six and ten this year. That is they've softened him on who covers the Seattle Seahawks and the NFC west. For Sports Radio KJ -- in Seattle -- thank you so much for the time we appreciate. Her. -- -- take I had I think the. And up to Reggie what's the cut that out does those kind of locked in front of -- Think yeah. Yeah -- want to. Know. -- but. All my god but the outlook but teammates to get the end zone. Two teams in the -- C estimated they wouldn't think would be vying for playoff position but that's not the case right now last week it was Miami and Indianapolis that did the young students -- -- it did not just the Dolphins a football but still in the thick of things. As well as a surprising Colts at five and three Josh Freeman at 790 the ticket. In Miami Jones is now Josh a tough loss of Bob Miami last week but the this Dolphins team just played extremely well on both sides of the ball out of sync. That's lead in the third ranked rush defense pass defense is is a bit wanting their near the bottom of the standings there. But the third ranked rush defense until last week and third downs allowed the fewest percentage third downs. And offensively -- there are doing very well mean -- -- stats don't jump off the paycheck yet. But he's a rookie quarterback just played eight games and looks like he's finally the keeper they've been looking for -- -- -- any Marino. Now Josh looking at the Colts -- day. I mean they have -- ability -- talent DC united parity and it felt -- climate three -- it. A lot of it that is positive energy emotions you know back in their coach coach. McDonnell housing where they'll shake their heads. Being a part of him so global what are you what did you think. You as a player can probably tell if you motions to factor in the way I think it's again and walked the guy easing. Just that meeting on of late I've never watched the whole game which in front to back the Dolphins and and and dealing with them. By Miami Heat are -- the Dolphins -- Dolphins are ranked. There are so -- proper defense like that against there down and he was thirteen of nineteen he often said there were twelve or fourteen. It was amazing to watch and that's -- Bobby as much as strong as it is rated -- -- -- on the field. Capsule pleased with -- play a great scramble and at what what the Dolphins for good defense and he made them look pretty bad. Now Johnson looking at the bills you know you look at. Who you'd expect maybe. -- the moves that make an offseason. You look -- underachieving Eagles you know Cowboys didn't. Maybe. I thought that I don't know the bills could do -- in the game -- They lose the detectives on the with the things accomplished or what is your take on Buffalo right now. Oh sort of near the bottom of the barrel very underachieving team that may cause. You know the Yemen and the coach beat fire mean -- always -- to be big disappointment fifteen million guarantee them -- in our deal. And what's led to a whole lot of nothing I mean you've got to the Patriots in the class that he I think the Dolphins. It's like the fact of the fourteenth they've beaten have a twelve in nineteen record -- that blow. And I think the Jets with power in the bills right now Arnold and now looking up from the bottom of the barrel on the agency's. Josh Freeman who that was the AFC east and the Miami Dolphins a 79 it to -- In Miami just thank you somewhat -- the time we appreciate any doubt about. Come back for the rest of the -- and calls the VW Newsome has six that is campers and we'll go to update update the Hornets -- -- The club along with the Hornets medical staff and -- That being here Gordon since we know and so -- now have arranged formal personalized. And went into rehab. Reds. That will take place in -- and is beginning this week and now Eric. In to work with specialist and provide a more focused attention on rehabbing his injured right knee. The prognosis is deal in the four to six week range for his return to the court. So you'd look in the easy got a lead December. Am I tell you that and down the lane -- them. We'll make it Jenks as -- -- -- -- with 1000 without Italy Campanella and now I know he was all world it only looked he looked like in the game when he went. Trap today for the Olympics but now it's -- Is you're in this in his right -- kept. Bikinis in the you know like the windchill factors just crept back into these the well. Mike Myers who covers the Pittsburgh Steelers for the Beaver County times saga once. You get to. Since -- he's. And that was a big one on Sunday. In new York and the Pittsburgh Steelers with a big victory coming up twentieth sports when he over the Giants Mike I don't think I've ever seen a game. That was that close in score you know maybe in the teens. In seven of some and was just a flat out excuse me ass -- As Pittsburgh beat New York -- and a 180 push -- A total office that game was a meet Pittsburgh could have basically at one point in one now they do shut the that. You don't want to element the sport's Peter the dance. After a -- -- it is playing much but there are up three games. Rory a while and sixteen point three points per game in the net game against the New York. They -- Eli Manning the great line and got called triple boring. It looked like a rookie you know in the fourth quarter the Giants set for addresses. Each one replay and upon. I'm not that the report will not the giant -- that great feat that -- the Steelers. Quiet and Mike you look how the Steelers on the of -- and then. You look at another division opponent of being -- the safe to say the least in the downswing. -- coach Marvin Lewis though would challenge in his divas of leaders to be more vocal. I was reading a four game losing streak now staring -- -- staring I guess you'd say and maybe another losing season I didn't realize this -- That -- does psychologist at the targeted team -- they've had a losing streak of at least four games in sixteen. Of their last 22 seasons. And twice they've lost ten in a row I mean to be the quarterback play was good enough. Even though you -- is a great Peyton Manning I mean the quarterback label of being -- to me it was good enough but it is is just one of those games. That I mean -- at -- we got to close the deal even -- you playing a -- team like Denver. You know the angle -- one of the greatest mysteries in the NFL. You know -- county state they're going to be good. They get that they aren't -- and meet up at the back when he seasons. From many many years I -- that date but you know. But they have adequate cure last year -- -- all rookie quarterback in the eight victory in the great receiver who look out here. Every once spot of the BB year -- they -- on the take. Overtake the -- -- import Baltimore Ravens. In the AFC north division that's pocket but. There were absolutely right now. You know they they know how to juggle it and go up on the important sample. You know they can very easily. You know -- -- record in the year and you know once again it's because doctor ordered all the more in that great stadium -- more of it. Now Mike speaking about the Ravens in Baltimore you look. A lot of times against case in point is how you handled adversity and you dealing went all the injuries. They come out on top 25 the fifteenth vs division opponent Browns and they've now won oh come on you know by black and blue yet. You always talk about that AFC north and how tough it is but it now one -- this -- their eleventh straight division win by the Baltimore Ravens. What. A lot of sucker hit poor swing that. Because the injuries that all the ball on defense supporter of -- slot that the record rate I don't think so I think it looked very. That's what ought I think the spot away and packed up that deep into -- competitive appear. Or were -- injuries this year. They can actually in the theater this theater. You know I -- that that the in my printing it to column that for the fourth straight year. -- order while the walker that tie with the same record -- -- blatant that it took about five or or or goose or. And so then that there isn't. You know -- people were still in new York and what are sick and to the plate this weekend and should be good to. Make and that we're here. Monday on Sunday night game at port where the ball more. Not fork or plate for the time being that there's. You know Mike when you look at the Steelers a ballclub like you -- and did it first in notre Polamalu trying to get up in the backfield. Starters season wanting to in two and three you know other than Baltimore. Pockets this Google thirteen three if they if they beat Baltimore twice and mean it's it's. They they have got a stretch now meaning and you do -- look at I mean you gotta take one about one. Like you said next weekend at the prime -- game against Kansas City another primetime Sunday against Baltimore and then at the Ravens the first week -- -- -- other than that. Pittsburgh will be I would say probably at Dallas off for a seven point favorite. There are big favorites in every other game they play. If you would think so but that's okay. -- they know about some looking to go through it and I haven't people adequately finish your spot. I think we talked a little better in a lot got -- -- work at the top. I'm they want but he top time in Cleveland -- close scores. He was brought in a lot more people I'll ask -- -- -- -- game can be a little -- and then we kept that they go to war for their game. You know. -- -- like. The sports paper the win. Most games throughout the locally here -- that Auburn or last year. Like become a quarter earlier but it could happen. Of course -- -- paint ball war for the two point -- -- got most out. Mike Myers who covers the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC north for the Beaver County times might thank you so much for the time we appreciate. -- As -- under center and who's gonna go. My. And they are rolling right now a five and three mob was some big marquee victories including a few weeks ago against Green Bay this as we gave it to the Miami Dolphins John-Michael meant to. Who -- was the Colts in the AFC south for 270 the pain in Indy. And -- job when you look at this team and their -- young quarterback did did what the other rookie quarterback to come into this league is that. Indianapolis. Through the first half the season is very relevant in their division and in the AFC to make the playoffs. That goes a lot longer I think with the credentials of the numbers as a rookie and when he has his team -- in the playoff. It about your absolutely rod and obviously you know. Put position in the NFL the thing that sticks out to be. With Andrew Luck and you know people talk about is his daddy is. -- ownership of the plate a mystery games this season in whether it is them. On the field on Sunday and I swear on the anybody. That is capable in the play. In all but I actually did play at -- pocket collapses. And and find somebody you'll keep your eyes down the field. It's very -- Yours and that's the and that's probably been most impressive. Part of what I have seen from Andrew Luck it is rookie season great game to be -- to play when a lot of guys out of that tree guys are capable to. Now -- your opinion. When you look at I don't know that -- boy is a game emotion you gotta have talent. You know you don't get an NFL and everyone talks about the parity. Would you look Andrew Luck rookie record four to 33 yards but. I thought this had to go -- way you look at a veteran like Reggie Wayne who's seen it all plated the highest level. And he went on to say I don't think there was anybody in this locker room. That was it not not wanting to give everything to get a W today for coach of paragon. I mean the -- thought that was like man we gonna do whatever it takes. That this is a game we have to win. Obviously displayed a roll right now I think without question that is playing at your role in the motivation. And it it's that particular meaning he hasn't been there yet eight full years you had the he'd be low and motioned signaled -- law where a lot of these guys that are very young -- their football careers and haven't been around that it certainly even the guys that have been around the game here at Indy for awhile it looked over it a little had a great deal background with. Shut but not RB is it true. And it has turned out that the ball on all the field through eight games probably. Will be larger not the largest sport like -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- field. Little bit of a cult was going into tomorrow night at Jacksonville will be -- to be -- -- -- three but also. With the -- -- story line out she was coming together and -- in all not fly. It has been a very special now that Beijing's door to this point. -- a -- a look at that of AFC south I've -- this is kind of interesting to save at least you look at the Bears putting it to the Titans 51 to 21 now the game wasn't in Chicago. It was in Nashville that was the Bears highest. Point total since 1980 you look at the -- now that loss what their second consecutive game now there owner Bud Adams says look. In my fifteen years of moaning and NFL franchise. Fifth year thing about it owning an NFL franchise. I'm that loss to recall regular season home game. That was such a discipline from myself and the fans said the Titans that's -- but I Adams told the Tennessean. Wool that the you had a body evaluation at the midpoint. I mean you never what you owners saying those kind of words. But it doesn't bode well or Mike Munchak it's partly I think Bobbie you know the better point it's it's what they've done defensively -- an awful. In Jerry gray figure to be in that fire storm of what has been the short company on the defensive side of -- in her slack while. Against Chicago this past week in Chicago once again defensively in and it'll be looking at the defensive player of the year at least so audience appellate. You know you can look at it you want it used to but they Charles Tillman has probably like the other circuit there at the Bears -- what -- accomplished. To this point but yet Bud Adams the I think there. -- all my object I feel like all the hot seat but that he got -- really big trouble right now Jerry gray you can make the argument. That they don't have all the pieces for and to put together too much defensively. But they have been flat all -- this year in those where you mention that pointed comments by the owner that ever. John-Michael Benson who covered the Indianapolis Colts in the AFC south but -- seventy the feigning Indianapolis John thank you so much for the time we appreciate. All right -- Very high it over again. Holidays and we -- -- decisive -- out the streets of the city. Five pucks -- good. 104. Yards went to the holiday. And now they're getting it done on special teams as well the offense and the defense is looking good in there on a Rose sending -- now in control of the AFC west. Was speaking of the Denver Broncos -- let -- -- to snap hook over the Broncos in the AFC west but the -- oppose and Jeff what is the fan base like. Now in -- this the point time last year when Tim Tebow started turn things around it's been excitement since you guys in that quote unquote Peyton Manning. Agassi recruiting services processed in landed him now this team is thought to play like all the fans always thought they were expected. I think if you're an AFC the got to be a little leery of Peyton Manning in the Broncos you know the defense is good -- can run the football well. And half he picks it up at that being out of football for such a long time to meet -- -- if they're playing at home away. They're going to be a very tough out the posting. -- you're absolutely right I think -- you can make the argument that. Opener they play at the Steelers. I don't want that ball scheme work and I'm not sure at times -- -- it rolled around on what you want -- team. And in all that they're you know yeah the fan base Jeremy. Ridiculous I mean -- yeah and guys take a year off. And he's already in all set records for the branch guys. You know he's already had three comeback wins this team but it's it's probable -- and you know if he Adrian Peterson and in our comeback player of the year I'd split the difference right now. You know Jeff -- and here's to the National Football League no fan base no city. Has spent more money on quarterback jerseys and back to back years but then damn bombing all the Tebow led CNN everybody back Manning this year. -- -- it my all time you don't. They look at -- QB you're and that at the quarterback down like I ever bigger than. Of late like everything was an assistant coach here and he also coached yet. And I had been one time that's what the proper quarterback down here in New York -- by far. Because there's simply don't play difficult if you're the quarterback -- the Broncos you're out in front of people all the time. And it's routine that has mattered -- feet and in four decades struck me and it's. It's really interest in watching and Manning it. You know if you're -- and injured guys you know some people that can still -- -- -- -- a little bit. But what that -- 300 yard game I think that you know last emotional. Yeah I'd Joba and Timmy were and I'll look at this that right here does it remind you of the Saints that would be accomplished in 2009. And rolled to the suitable. How do you closeout games. And looking at this figure in the final quarter the Broncos that now score outscored its opponent a 103 to 23 in the final quarter. If you close out games like that no you gonna win and that's what. Those Saints fans that was a big reason. Why the Saints while world champs how they close out games. And you know it all comes from. For -- and I think he's just sold my uncle. And you know he approaches. You know they just have so much confidence in and can't -- any time on the clock you know because it's in that there wasn't breathing that. There isn't really much -- defense can do it and if you have an accurate Smart. Prepared quarterback. I'm not sure today and I -- you can defend that without. Second home and the Broncos ever give up the sack in four of their last five game. Knowledge -- again and AFC west of opponent the saints' opponent after -- Falcons and the pounding -- ago. Al to all in the Bay Area to play the Raiders. Are looking at the bugs 4230. Tuesday like. That -- Palmer did his job we did before under fourteen yards. And had three of his four touchdowns in the fourth quarter he cut the lead to 3532. -- -- what is your take on the Raiders -- -- it. Almost look at -- Doug Martin. How can you not be may be rookie of the year at 31 pick. Out of Boise State what became the first back since at least 1940 to scored three touchdown runs. At least 45 yards -- one game or the Raiders that bag down on defense to what. Yeah I know that count at what's happened is it's. They are going to be OK I mean they were. You know optimistic because -- may go over the franchise and so they talk about Keenan just. Remade the roster they made every department in football strength coach. You know training staff way. I mean everybody coaching staff and then -- -- at the roster. And you just cannot do that China. You know sort of extreme make over. And and have that kind of gets you -- -- take that and they've had some very very key injuries on both sides of the ball lots are starting corners. Right litigate they've not got McFadden. With a high ankle sprain. Mean they just could not afford to have any injuries. From a team that -- -- that probably about a 500 team and I think they just don't have the depth the fight that saw but I think it's going to be a long -- forum. On down the stretch here. -- walk over the AFC west for the Denver Post and the AFC west all season long Jeff thank you so much for -- on -- we appreciate your time. Thought all right they have and that is around the league this weekend's schedule of course our match at Atlanta at New Orleans there's a nineteen.