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2-14 2:10pm Spud talks w/Joe Harrison about the sinkhole

Feb 14, 2013|

Spud talks to State Representative Joe Harrison about the growing sinkhole in Assumption Parish.

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Joining me state representative. Joseph Harrison from Napoleon the Hydro and Joseph are -- been. -- don't Wear on I'm actually from what happened I don't know elaborate do you eat a whole another big ducks. Yeah -- -- but no we don't miss drew praise on and some of the best fried chicken and smothered feel PG ever gonna have us yes sir good people yeah it. Let's let's talk let's talk this the same cold. Yeah this thing has yet to be a mean look -- when it started it was a little bit ludicrous. It's getting to be a little bit more and more out of hand another ceremony for a first 5000 square feet and opted to Sony 500. Square feet of vote land has left off into the sinkhole it's now eight and a half acres. And is inching its way towards this this butane. A one point five million barrels of liquid butane I mean I'm reading stuff -- green stuff that people go oh my god it'll be like. You know three Hiroshima bombs all at once. I mean there is no way. That's certainly could burn and I'm sure there would be a big explosion but that's the way one point five million barrels inside the ground is gonna go all fallen once -- Possible -- We had actually some of the engineers that are there hired by the state not I've got to give a real. Own shell out 21 of the people is really stood out strong. In state government and that is so all these shoots who's edit in -- Steve Israel is stuck his neck all all financially. And brought in top -- people to try to do all that he possibly can't protect people that area. Com they have people won't stay -- now over their commercial. And from a number of different tone groups around the country has only -- concur outside of the country that are studying this and trying to give some indication was going won't book. This is not exactly -- and. Was kind of unprecedented to this level and I did absolutely -- -- ankles I argue you can go Google up and watch how old houses just disappear all of a sudden. But nothing like this and nothing with the potential with all like build the bubbling methane on the rest of the stuff going. It has been and we just started hybrid course that we put a ring Levy. Around the existing holes well a couple of months ago we always started doing that. Obama so I guess -- -- -- -- to be able to contain all of these chemicals that are coming out because they're going out into the marsh which can go out into. Our waterways and we could have potential -- chills and god only knows what else because they haven't been able to identify all the chemicals that are coming out of the problem. So it I mean and are they just on mixing together so it's hard to separate camera mean and how. What's the number I guess now -- 4050 different types of chemicals coming out early mixing together make -- number -- -- -- It's it's actually the chemical compounds now I -- just said there are mixing together they can identify they're actually doing DNA testing. To try to get a link as to where they could potentially come from because -- number old old caverns in that area in the state Louisiana under over under. Yeah and then one of the sad things we don't know which -- We have very little information more hopeful. There were able to correct that because of the situation we're dealing with today and don't have to get permitted. -- they do they do but it's not rarely available so that a lot of the communities. In the event and I always worked from worst case scenario. Any event something happens do you have a point. But we have no plan. Because we had pipelines that run across the whole bit we had to have them per school arms. With so we can a couple of days because sort of potential exploding. And this sort of very volatile some cooler we're going through a lot of these are ones that -- running all too I'll be there. So it's it's a lot more complicated than just the whole. All. It's you know having the information available. Is for public buying property. That there are unaware of what's under the property or near the property. So they're not getting full disclosure on man and. Women ornament I got to disclose at my house flooded I got a close if I've got turmoil and now of course and a stroke. I don't know that there hasn't been any flooding since I bought it. I've got to termite contract while a -- but if there's any termite damage I would know -- because I have to tear walls up to tell you that -- you can only really testify from the time you get it to you go want. But if somebody has gotten a a permit. To actually put stuff in to create and put stuff into a Cameron because actually talked to a guy. About how I was wondering how these salt -- work is just a big hole in the ground that you don't have any osmosis a -- assault which got up. Like drew intuit in the in the high pressure and suck it out and fill it with or less they go -- -- world and strategic reserves are. Well I mean they know what they're put in that hole when they do that you know this this this does not fall under that category it's like okay here's a permit. And where this is what we're gonna put in there and now all of a sudden all these different chemical compounds are coming out. Right and support. That's that's part of what we're doing it right now is the unknown. While we've been told it could be leaching from actually below the cavern itself. Or -- surrounding caverns. That are in that area. Home. Which. Is against but it's the unknown. And that's what these people who have homes there are suffering -- risk. The fact they had. You know you do have disclosure about blood flooded areas that you had disclosed amount. There is no disclosure rule. About pipelines. About caverns are about the chemicals -- go to -- And that should be something that we're gonna look at so that. People make a conscious efficient bottom trumpeted be located next -- You know I would I would think -- And out you know what yeah let's go ahead I'm I'm going to be a -- to step -- and a couple of minutes from a star also. Let's put into -- now all these people -- a 150 over 150 residences have had to be evacuated. How. I I was reading a story about them that. They can't get they can't get their insurance renewed. And I mean there they got mortgages so the mortgage companies demanding to have insurance. But they can't get insurance from the insurance companies because they're in not in their homes so they won't ensure that they're suggesting that they get insurance for. -- an abandoned home and I'm suggesting that how about we send the bill to the people who forces to evacuate their homes. Well. That's been a big issue. -- -- there are several content copied duo commissioner Don wounded working on -- but every cause are going to be all policy had a cold and instead it's no one lived in the home for thirty days. Here are actual Covert signal boy. Soul soul and and I you know what. Say and they have some of these issues after Katrina a lot of people just in rebel intentional slap -- in their home was a ruined shell anyway so what else did you do to a frankly they came along and got destroyed even more. Then you would even have to pay you know -- diva McConnell and answer to learn but but this is a different story I mean their homes were quote livable. Before the sink -- happened. But there's a clause in the policy but I mean it's like yeah they have been evacuated is not like they've picked up and went to Disney World for two months. You know I got kicked out of their homes and -- there's a clause in that kind of deal. But where where is the calls on the other -- war the reason they are abandoning their home and will these companies sell them. -- policy forum for an abandoned home until licking the back in there. You know what I know that the measure of working on that. I think that what have control state in order to protect them but no big picture stories there in 2003. We had a doubt chemically bad break down the road just over a mile. Trained not easy. To purchase all of homes. In that area. And now we have this event of the -- of the road. To the west side it is. Although. Not as bad. -- the Dow -- -- -- bit up and did the right thing getting people out of the area. By. Think about the plate these people are going through their -- workforce. Called one -- may not be put it right very young man has a very nice home there. And someone made the comment and I forget who was that the public meeting and we're getting paid homage Kawika. And Nick Young dot com broke kind and humble and Al Gore. Mark and we do live in a market they have their room there are things. A compliment the saint Pete and convenient car home. Because we're live and in between bedroom. Travel trailer outcome of the -- And they're different not contemplate that I envisioned in my -- them. So. I'm hopeful you know we can bring the ones that are involved in this the parties together working on that. And try to get them into the seats in that the -- people did he can't make an awkward to allow these people won't go on. If they wanna be bought out -- clear their -- allow Libya that. And who's gonna set the product step away but I got text messages and phone calls lining up and stuff like that so. You know the this the thing of it is who's gonna set the price is the price going to be. What the price who was before all of this stuff happened yet. It's always it's always create value and it usually two and a -- upon that I don't think it would doubt -- -- remember correctly. Just -- out sojo yell Connell looking at that as the standard to be -- Blue lately out there because this there is no and it is there's no Carmine. And you just can't keep people hanging on it could be going home -- What 910 months now. So and so what August early August. Is that when it's happened. Yeah and actually did the first event happened rated the beginning imagine. Well actually that's true value and the first found some of the stuff bubbled up close personal mobile came out was was it. What the heck is that never virus and don't I was probably just like that thing that happened over and in the chapel on base you know that that they had to shut down the interstate for welcomes had to burn and burn and pipeline video. But different story. -- -- -- I got calls and against senator I guess they were upset at Joseph Harrison he's from -- bill lawless is in his area over there we're talking about the big sinkhole assumption parents. When we come back to let's also talk about the how is inching towards this butane I picked it. You saying yes is the possibility of explosion. And one point five million barrels of liquid butane. Would be a I mean well that won't find this trade deal made that statement it would take up who have small local property. Does the reference and I know. -- diameter for a radius. And I am. That's big enough radius of the worst prevent that that would be a hell of a hole then. Aren't bad remarks -- show Joseph Harrison as my -- got a couple probably gonna -- It's -- wife Beverly as the number 866. Zeroing seventieth. All right semi semi -- and attacks again there. Today on on sports show we were talking Valentine's Day and happy Valentine's Q but -- get online can't you voted RO pretty opinion poll that need to be overcome what is the foundation of your relationship. Semi 4% say low of 8% say lost 7% same money 11% say other which also includes don't know so there -- While my guest this hour though is state representative Joseph Harrison. From from -- -- bill says the point two -- thing that he knew atonement yeah massive ballot implies for Charlie morsels from its massive gray area there and that whole areas just north of all opened down bio foolish right there. That's just a great place to grow up in -- -- yes. -- We were talking before I got callers and tax people are lining up but we're talking about what was what's in the ground over there and in this sinkhole is getting bigger. There's things bubbling up from their methane and other chemicals. Approaching fifteen what. One point five million barrels of liquid butane which is that -- is that in another assault dawned on their least we know what's and that's only going. One point and and now. Before -- let me let me let me go back to what you said before -- looking to build -- -- around the hole to keep the chemicals -- -- seeping -- from seeping into the -- Causing fish kills and whatever other kind of disaster. I mean where where do you determined to -- vote though Levy the Rangel every because I mean the whole is getting bigger and bigger well not just collapse eventually collapse eleven yours is just gonna buy you time. It's -- you can figure out what to do with this whole. I think -- last but he -- that probably true because we are initially told. -- -- it was stable and meant so they can move forward with theirs. On that again is the unknown is there's untested tribes that we're doing homework. And it's there it is -- frightening that we don't. How to handle on this thing yet and we don't know exactly what needs to be done all the non com and a support role only make. -- clear poor are -- jury in and parish President Obama country's commitment to elected officials which is on senator Richard ward and -- and the currency arrangements. Everybody's work and Horton hopefully towards -- In giving us some answers both protecting our people because those. Are some people it's -- Yeah now. Well actually you know won here commentator -- Catherine Catherine turn your own tune your radio down with -- it -- okay thanks for Conan you're -- resilient. Yes I'm one album that chance to -- My house is owned by new corn. There are 22 -- ounces in our subdivisions. And not only to have -- So the rest of us -- here. We had at some of the meetings and this is launching our request. Is when people get up and answer questions that they identify themselves. And where they've lived because we have a man from California. Instead he Monday he was in the area could not. Could not breathe it smell was horrible. And that same day my husband without the whole day. Working with the man I can't emphysema. And he without their help and my husband. And we had no problem. Sometimes you get smelled good thank you live in a small area. And I mean. We're. Yes they have the butane and I think it's crosstex. Can be butane and 11 portion of the salt dome. They moved it further. Away from the sink holes so. -- knowledge that portion has to -- him. A far right now. Has an okay. And they have had no further problems -- you need a bigger problem with butane on the I ten in Baton Rouge that we adhere. Well but the problem else. Your problem is creeping towards the butane although he said that they actually moved. One point five million barrels of butane farther away did they drew did the that they kind of light what is -- -- another insult them and move it over there. They moved debt of approximately 15100 feet further. And we haven't had any other record of bad yet but it from my understanding. You know that portion is faithful right now. What -- well wait what -- that Joseph -- say for right now that's that's a whole point of it there. You were told before it was stabilize and now another 7500 square feet has fallen into the hole so. And that they you know I agree with the lady did so make these statements could she does live there and there expose this stay in and -- -- -- but. Whether whether -- -- -- and I can't I cannot say it is don't think anybody can because even find is. Are really baffled as to where this thing use is call you -- and it's as -- -- there and compete and put away. Is that trade. Government at -- -- called on -- college. Ball ideology of feel confident we have many years. This is -- for the usual situation has warned that can be in the record book. Science is very unusual that's again. -- Garland has done a couple of shows but this I get our consulate give email updates from Mumbai born of people are with lean. Louisiana environmental action network and they're there they're on top of this like they're on top of everything else I mean they're the river marshals and all that stuff I read their stuff regularly. But when you know win this chunk fell off and it starts and they had to move all this butane and then the fear of an explosion that would rival Roche -- I mean. Again I I I don't think it would all go open once but you know I'm no power technician I don't know exactly how that stuff works -- -- -- cargo crew to photograph them by fireworks every New Year's -- that's my experience an almost nonstop. I guess the point -- I appreciate your call and I'm I'm with you for one thing for is for sure like you said. Stand up and say your name your address you know in those meetings because you're you're you're pretty limited in the time. That's all well there can't or don't have a dog in your particular hunt but they're trying to keep a dog. In the environmental -- across the nation and I appreciate that but you're right the locals with the biggest dog in the hunt in the Biggest -- immediately. They're the ones who should have mow all the say so make a stand up and none but you never know mean those people may have information that you can certainly utilized. Started the rockets when he DeWitt well the pavement in turn around. And then that was the whole bit I mean it was almost got to a variety. And then and unfortunately there's there is there now than. At a at that point I was accused by someone that lived across the highway that I did not care. And that's what got me more than anything yes I care I have a house here. And I don't -- I. Really do not plan on leaving behind and and the other twenty families on this side. Are trying you know with all I might just -- And we you know we keep up with that we've offered solutions to some of the things that they are doing. And and sometimes suggestions have been taken. Which and you know that we're thankful for that they aren't listening tour. While that's that's not an -- I got a subway and do the news put your point about. Not having -- having somebody step up and actually explain who they are because that again they're people who watch this stuff nationwide who generally have concerns about the environment. And there are people who watch this stuff -- concerns too like to stir up a big mess and that's not gonna make any of -- stuff in any better I appreciate you calling got to step away though Don -- in the newsroom. Joseph Harris Susan is my guess more your calls and comments rep and has brigades seven inevitably. We're back on us closer -- semi WWL 2670. Is the number 86688. Zero point seven inch -- realigned. 87870. He is where you -- injured text. Don't forget coming up and sports program Bobby and Deke on Valentine's Day who the athletes that you love to hate. Then at 530 beat tiger hopes Ellison battles the gamecocks at South Carolina tore -- the pros. Weekdays at four on the news talking sports powerhouse WWL my guests this hour is Joseph Harrison state represented. From -- to -- hold polian -- area we're talking about that out. That assumption parents think hold. Com here is a text message road Joseph spot as a pair -- -- can you please ask. With a sink hole being so unpredictable why have they not started a new road to bypass was and a seventy. I used to cut down that way myself gone from guns Alan Stewart to Thibodeau has gone a nickel state so I'm pretty familiar with a history men and taken it down the pass down at two to think Marion and tolerance of that area is there I mean it takes a while to build a road and and I mean you can't just. Here I'm actually you know their own -- heroes being built because of our financial situation led. This is an emergency oil and 2003 when they should dial 87 -- And beyond doubt plan. People had to drive around couldn't truly come more from the -- could direct direction coming union which is about eleven mile -- I think more. Shares would be -- really well inconvenient it would mean drug and probably true. Why council. Or all true -- city they live on the other side. And really create all troops from people they're being looked. -- and all those rules are there they are designed to carry that extra load either. -- end and actually. Representatives. Parents send me pumped airport is is working on match here is actually the chairman. On that particular committee during the campaign. And here's another one. And so I'm sorry this thing keeps rolling home ever tell me -- known. Is there a map that we can look at to see where all these domes are our limit assumption parish and I'm worried. I mean we're talking about. Not necessarily knowing what's in all of and I got a text message refer to that when I'm all for cheap falling gas. But I held these companies -- have to disclose what they put into losing an assault is there are some -- him of geographical -- heard Jessica map or something I mean to us via. United States Geological Survey have a -- have some kind of a reference YouTube and go to for that. Together several European born line toward the -- and natural resource is not think under the -- the conservation. Which is good division there. Are they should have been appropriate maps be able to look at them. Went on at. Where different things are done. Yeah and and there are different connecting pipelines and things aren't there a lot of these pipelines are passing under people's property per private property. Yeah its -- -- though was a pipeline was laid and then the land was developed them people who build house is on top of pipelines. Yet not call eight and a lot of my older -- on your win you know the rules aren't coming in as they are now. All the newer lines that are out there are different from you know residential go aaron's. Yeah so these like grandfathered and pipelines via -- but do they have to have that kind of disclosure I mean. I I'm not saying I wouldn't buy a house -- had a pipeline run and under it but I would wanna know. How big is a pipe how far down is the pipe how old is the pipe and wanted to push into that pipe you know. -- -- of I think we're working with the existing disclosure laws they're so real workers have to deal with could try to add something new and all see that particular law and order to have that don't recognize. Here's another -- YouTube late -- -- salt mine disaster this is what happened to the sink hole but worse. I live in a foolish fashion this has me concern I haven't looked up -- YouTube you from manually premiere -- -- yeah Paramount announced the PE IG in and you are. I'm not familiar with a. I -- downtrodden New Iberia was sort of over years ago when a whole late. Went directly down and he's golf ball down. I remember that you know now on the road I think about all of our big our crane barges with yeah. Well and it'll suck and again you can go on you can just Google. Anywhere and videos -- images I -- I remember one -- house in -- religious -- on the ground just open company then boom there went you know so -- sometimes you don't know what's going on subterranean wise but that's. You know god made I mean when you talk about -- this man made what's in the hole in the ground ball while your bureau paying for a permit to put some and then there. You know and and I'm like where this other guys and in the text I'm I'm all for. Look when BP happened when the big spill out there happen there's a lot of people who'd do this correctly we had a lot of expert -- on from universities and other places. Who go look. You know we haven't had a problem like this a long time if they follow the standard procedures in the safety procedures that are already in place. You are gonna have this kind of problem there's some kind of deviation from the same thing here there's a lot of oil and a lot of chemicals stored in salt domes. You know if everything is done correctly. Then then you should be good to go but you should be able to go to I mean. Not only looking it up on the Internet. Or are on -- whatever clothes to Wear number one of the deal has worked there should be some form a piece of paper someplace going. This is once in this whole this is how much of the that is in this whole. This is this is how long ago and put in the hole on this you know all that stuff should be spelled out with a permit to put it in the hole. And. I really feel that this next session you're gonna see a much more all information put out there publicly. North -- subway extra second comeback -- more your calls and comments are having -- seventy WW Al. A year ago leg -- or in telkom on getting different or text messages now. 260178668890. -- 787870s. Where you send your text message here. My guess is a state representative Joseph Harrison and we're talking about the big. The big sinkhole in assumption -- -- more run for the the spurs showed the biggest seventy WWL 2601 -- seven is a number by the way if you any shows that we have. -- -- We podcast those of you missed any part of any show you just wanna hear it again because the podcast any time. Go to WW dot com or go to shows and schedules in that black. Far right below don't know -- you'll see WTO to throw that. This scroll down and click on any name you want and then when you get to the page of the of the host -- your scooter Tommy whoever. Just a click on mouse click on the in the show and you can listen to that podcast we we have about two weeks where there shows that the most OK so if you wanna listen listen quick. My guest is Joseph Harrison needs to stay representative. From the yeah from assumption Paris -- to bill blowing -- area and we're talking about the assumption parish cinco has a text message Joseph. These people should be compensated for evacuating all their troubles. Are you looking at two and a half times because down kind of set that standard from the mass that they hand. Do you think you're gonna get that anyone at what is this sub -- Texas -- incorporated eight. They certainly don't have the pockets lead down to those of do you think could you think this map -- -- -- -- and kind of an up and litigation for one. Are they content at all will end up in litigation but -- -- short. Good pick for the people of the areas. That we do have the landowner could there in the lead and feel the property at that point. And auction -- owned that particular piece of property. Who were. We're hopeful that between two parties that we can come up with a solution because there were. Multiple parties involved -- down and work together in order to Kamal what that plan. How they are being content created -- weekly right now by countries aren't. Well it took to have the security is as I told you that young man says. About being in the home -- and the ones or they -- the ones earned her a large group that would like to leave because I agree on certainty of the area. I think that they -- don't have the option to be a little they're there. I mean are they gonna reach a certain point of this if I mean there's going to be -- code off Tom Marie go look -- take a deal now. Bordering going to be no more deal in the moves the whole get bigger and then they're going to be a lot. Here I think that there are so many. Concord Ontario -- -- there right now voted -- paying all the lawyers in the single act as a fill up the sink hole but how many years that film a lawyer frank yeah thank you spider. Yeah company and -- -- -- correct yeah okay. Well I'm old format and good crew and I pump more wrapped around a weapon because there's somebody there on the left some of the stuff otherwise yeah I'm not as you'd never be able back away and then and try to figure out how to deal with -- -- you just gonna go but he -- here. It is senator attracts them really strange people that are involved the net and content. You know control method out there that lady indicated that may have Californians don't. It is just getting the facts and come up with a solution and right now. All there isn't a solution more vocal work toward gardeners are not come on and that's the bad thing. Yeah yeah and yeah and the one you got the legislative session coming up to I mean is there any kind of I mean you got committees talk about and a look at that haven't you'd you'd get -- Udonis figure out. I mean you can't just go out there and file a bill to deal with this stuff you -- -- accountability got -- follows got to be included was not in if you pass a piece of legislation. Too soon and it doesn't cover everything. Then the next thing you know it's like do you going to be fighting all that in court to do so you're right adding insult to injury now because there with the -- you'd. Not you know again at. Some something is gonna have to happen all the legislative level to deal with this is unprecedented. But -- -- slowly. On purpose compared to run once you run a law then you got to go either amend it or repeal it or it's got to be adjudicated or you know it. Sounds good to talk. But doing it. That second or third time to write the first comment. -- said that a woman tell you we have I don't want a natural resource committee amount try and I'm part of this right now and then break reward and an award is only gonna try we have a joint natural resource can be meaning -- actually -- there. On the nineteenth of this mall which is good trees there. Are. It's not going to be you know on open well -- -- Peter Cook but we're going to have a follow. And I think you really can't hit the nail on here where we're gonna -- -- saying look at what we have to talk about trying to command -- -- and have it going leg equated committee meeting. In airport. There accommodate the people that are effective and -- although they can get that marriage for a committee meeting like this we're gonna do it right there in that community. And and the locals get say so before anybody. Yes saw the people you know will prioritize could pull off the people that are expected to 453. Family. And what lifted out who want the eight. And asked the court but we'd like to get all let -- -- with this first meeting and look exactly what the issue talk. How we can bring answer not to go there tilted back Q but has not been there that we can give them that concrete. Item is simple way for second comeback I got more calls and comments and run on offense it's they represented Johansson is my guess. Talking about the think Colin assumption parents back for -- -- a list. -- -- my guess we'll get back the folks. Carla Power you think for Tony it's on you which thing. Well I think you. -- won't add a represented how things go on the meaning on Tuesday under legislators residence or not it's. Equally and it could get in other -- -- should we go to baton or choose different. On Tuesday I think it's going to be a lot of the technical things and a lot of questions they came out he hired -- -- -- -- block -- -- Well I said that it looks like Groundhog Day when he -- meetings -- same thing over and over. Will China do is get to the core issues. And find out what does the public in something information we gathered and try to get all -- done. And then the real meeting the people that are adversely affected by this will be. A week or two later between one recession. You know actually compete at the new -- and -- -- you know okay. I have another quick question you -- -- on the property valued light on I just got into a thirty year mortgage. Our property gotten where he will -- So he's very little else. Floyd is and that is absolutely true that's why we're trying to all -- you don't come up with something I think we're gonna use as a -- -- Dow Chemical did right up the roads. I think they use two or three different. Appraisers yes things come up with a common number. Quickly I got to go Carla how much is a suntan and as mortgage -- maybe she's done -- -- mortgage on the house can't live in -- -- this is his weekly slide in the live covering nano -- No how could he have to -- another home where it happened.

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