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But they all agreed that it was apparent passing fantasy and no worried that it would get legs. Or recently. News in my the reading to -- stumble on it on a regular basis you know the beds are concerned. That a legitimate users may be trying to launder money in -- accordance. I'm reading about. Deluge did -- -- operators. Putting a portion of their pot in big corn. The caller just that on I can remember the name again. But if you remember the FaceBook stories Zuckerberg. When he was in college. At a U. For turn it the two twins. Two tours. That were twins -- of and in today claimed that they came up with a page book idea before it's a bird. Took him court one sizable amount of money and -- one of the world's biggest investors that in that court so. It seems like if it was something of the players and the -- And dying. And came about in 2000. And in doing better. Or better now in 2013. And was 2000. Seemed like it's worth investigating. And again go to -- experts we have doctor refuge abroad and Cameron propels your opponents -- -- international banking experts spectrum in banking and finance from market doctor good Doctor Who didn't. I. What are -- -- could this is this by hello is this something that that could do. Be around for a ever. Well on the you know recent history and that is definitely part of. Now the question. Whether owned the state for ever. It depends on how would -- Truby. Regulatory -- how the law. Developed to accommodate this yeah well money. That we have. And it's sort of very similar to the crying. He should he have -- the creation of the -- there in 1913. When banks were usually. Notes. So he created the federal bank. Now we just have be centralized. Note if you -- considered a call. It points. You know the technical term but we signed by the US treasuries in. Convertibles were shall currency. And anatomy and function it's no different from top. Money. So. I think it is definitely a viable concept of a question how to deal with this being financial innovations. And what its ramifications are terms moderate policy. And general trade in. Well what are my question is who have reduced Sandra and over expert on the percent power that said. A number of countries very aware of this and that given their tacit blessing to a thus far. And and or encouraging it with the thought that if it grows -- -- regulated taxes it's over. And what I look at groups like anonymous when I look at groups like pirate. Pirates bay. Both the organization's. One. Its annual information. Pirates Billy. Steals for all intense and purposes entertainment. But it was started by a anonymous people who put food on open sourcing on the Internet. And just hope people do with the what you will so there's no office no headquarters no CEO no. You know people in black -- crouch over the computer. A lot of people sitting at home all of the world doing this. 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To talk is about if we called our favorite specialists and banking pretty neutral market talk to Russian national Ryan. Cameron propose your opponents -- issue international banking expert. Doctor is is is this city is this something that can be hacked and stole. Why -- standing I don't think that has been the issue is. Bitcoin and actually -- where people come out. You know with older action is that they're gone through what he has they call it in their. -- I think it is -- area. Say. Would. System confirmed that the creation of the -- I don't think that we're -- there are or the best of mine now it's our computer scientists. I don't think that we're. And made -- rom com. Hacking into -- create money. Two year among economists are in the larger issues arise where create credit instruments awful but it. -- just like leave now -- credit instruments based on our currency. And I'll pay you thirty days later he US dollars. 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What you think governor bill -- age seventy -- 53 year after. It's -- I've interviewed a year ago won -- -- bowers said there are a number of countries that are. You know Gibbons approval so Ford to bits and little modern wing in the role watching it and it's been virtually all countries. But I was -- this sort of media placement on the opening in the war one of the experts. Put its regulations. Regulate or other other countries. May calibrate the creation of new currency you've won like big corn -- doesn't require central bank and authority. But no government. Is going to allow missing out on the collection of taxes. Is that something that will constrain this sort -- Two we did well because. What exactly. How. Currency is ultimately means hanging out sold the essence of the taxation without a car. The commerce. You know that but -- after the currency exchange. And the question. Which way he won back -- To beat me -- and it's important possible that the commerce transaction. Tax. Internet com for instance. Be straddled it in US dollars. In the -- currency. Till they figure out liberate. It went currency even accept -- he should bitcoin currency that if -- didn't have tightened he. I think the issue -- at that issue I think that our country. A -- here. Doctor always a pleasure to have you on the show pictures so much and we'll talk about this again and I'm sure it's still rural. Always are good actor.