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12-5 9:35am Tommy, should we raise the minimum wage?

Dec 5, 2013|

Tommy talks to Ron Unz, a Silicon Valley software developer who's leading the charge to raise California's minimum wage to $12 per hour, about the conservative argument for raising the min. wage

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Ron Owens joins us right now is a fascinating -- it was a Republican nominee for governor in California she's a conservative. Silicon Valley millionaire. Chinese donated millions of his dollars to advertise something that he's proposing which is. Now like the president says not raise in the minimum wage to ten dollars but the twelve dollars and California and he's got some interesting ideas. From a conservative viewpoint as to why he wants to do that with that we welcome in. Ron -- morning sir how -- great -- have taken a time I solely on CNN the other day and -- -- producer Jordan I wanna talk to him. And we are right now tell me -- the first off is people are gonna wonder and I hate that it always comes down a list. About your conservative cribs if you will. Among generally been more on the conservative size of most issues like come from scientific background so sort of look at things -- a case by case basis and many times I think the conservative side is the right side but. Not always. I know you've spent at least a million of your own dollars trying to. Promote this idea why is that so important to -- what do you think it would change if they raise the minimum wage in California to fifteen dollars. Well actually attempt at 121000. We haven't even started signature gathering in which we just filed ignition development certainly going to be putting -- my salute my own money into the campaign but it happens. It's been growing much money to begin with yet the election isn't for another year. But in terms of the policies. I think it's just very important for society and there have been essential. Right now of all these workers who were earning. At 750. 850 an hour. And the -- answer that is that they received billions of dollars in taxpayer benefits food stamps earned income tax credit housing subsidies. So which which happening just -- Businesses don't want to pay their own workers. Enough to allow them to survive so their forcing the taxpayer make up the difference. I don't think it makes much more sense for people Pedro workers that get you would like it -- So you're saying we're not subsidizing the individual as much as we are -- particular industry. Except clinics in other words. The people can't survive on the wages they're paid so the tax Payer mix up the difference. On the. In terms of benefits. To society and well at least the American economy -- you have some pretty. Interesting opinions I guess the top three benefits as seem as it relates to. Student debt right -- of an immigration and public assistance. I mean they're all these different issues -- -- with a simple solution is right now. We have you know. Very stagnant economy. Raise the minimum wage nationwide to twelve dollars an hour it would put a 150. Billion dollars extra into the pockets. Of the sort that was the spend every dollar that the current sort of the route we would increase consumer demand by 150 billion dollars would be the largest stimulus package. In American history -- funded by entirely by the private sector. At all it would really -- bonus. Most of these private businesses would have to raise their prices are very small amount for example Wal-Mart. Could make all the workers can at least twelve dollars an hour at Ole Wal-Mart would have to -- would be released -- one time by 1%. To cover the costs. And that would -- All of these -- People with extra suddenly to be able to -- that won't -- Which -- you know pretty important issue in terms of the immigration issue it's a very important. Factors that are as well. The recently and so many illegal immigrants in California and the rest of the United States. Is that the commute for jobs in the importers are there. Even go to principal. The recent employees hired them is they're willing to work for very low because they're willing to work for which is well aware that the Americans are willing to work for. If the minimum wage is raised twelve dollars -- works. Many many Americans will take those shops. And will be most of it for illegal immigrants. Armed before we move on a student dead and I'm just wondering if that would work with the illegal immigrants. Would it not displace a lot of people who have a very limited skill set and as a result people that are more. -- tell -- have we have more ability would then take the jobs at twelve dollars an hour. Or fifteen whatever number you decide on and then. In essence you create a bigger group of people they can't take care of themselves and then you will write back to where we started with the federal aid or assistance. Probably not -- The thing is that in California. And probably in much of the rest of the United States many of the sort of -- it used to be held by the lowest adult Americans are teenagers are the least educated. Actually now held by illegal immigrants I mean you know it's cool most people's loans who you know candles those sort of dropped. And that -- the honesty you know if you're talking about a twelve dollar and torture. It's business are paying -- they'd probably preferred hires somebody who knows in English whose legally here. Who couldn't you know basically do the job from day one on the other yeah. If businesses can get away with paying ridiculously low waitress. Built higher levels will take the trouble in many cases it's usually illegal immigrants so you know I mean clearly there will be some shall tropical split. -- a lot of those jobs have already been lost and I think by. Boosting the economy with an extra 150 billion dollars a year in consumer spending. I think will a couple of more jobs in general. And addresses student debt issue if you would. What an awful things you have all these people right now going to college taking a huge loans to get a college education. Many of them in the past. Wouldn't have really wanted that much to go to college the recently need to. But if you need to go to college education is that the old ways they can get in non poverty wage job. In other words. This sort of jobs that used to go to high school graduates. Know require a college education. It is certainly the minimum wage is twelve dollars -- -- a lot of people in approachable the biggest majors in college our business. You know but basically it's not a academic subjects it's sort of subjects that you take only because the better drop. It. So hopes paid bidder to begin with the twelve dollars an hour more. Typical of -- people would say. May -- makes more sense not to take out thousands or tens of thousands of student debt to. You know give -- four years of their life and it would just take the sort of general Batiste go to -- fiscal crowd to. I appreciate your time before we let you go have you gotten any. Push back from the conservative. And community at all people sing your body mind. And I mean that respectfully and -- -- the interesting thing about hasn't been you know and a number of talk a conservative talk radio chosen last. You know few days and that's really very pleasantly surprised at all. You know the first ever surprise they're sort of shocked by the idea that there's a conservative case for much are minimal wage but when I make these points that you know the taxpayers are now paying the wages of these people by government benefits it's better for the businesses -- statements that. I'm not a pretty conservative argument that business should should should stand on their own two feet. And the lot of them seem much more open to the idea -- and they probably expected to be a week ago. -- -- -- it quickly and get a couple of text here asking me did have you -- your own business for awhile round. All actually not only just started slow group businessmen -- a connection wrestled with a few years ago another software company now that I'm starting so yeah I'm going to. I'll have you know businessman for many years got a couple of -- appreciate your time I really do interesting thought process thank -- --

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