Old saints fans do know this better second half of the show around 1230 spot and we'll have to dolby -- him to talk to you about your beloved so I think there's still -- -- does -- This -- well we're gonna talk about something notional blown -- went back room. Is set to become what they called it a consumer for the rebuilding of Louisiana wetlands of 45 million dollar campus that just in neutral. Investment. Is being billed to attract the best experts around the world. Whatever talk more wetlands were in the environment a cold dark Bob Thomas rector. Of the center of environmental communications for Loyola university doctor welcome to the show it to do it. I probably should talk to you first but it talked your family. We informed him you would not be there for Christmas Seaver and you're you're using you. Because we have you scheduled for 333. Shows in the thing. So. What do you think I did when I read about -- well -- something. I've heard banded about and talked about for decades here. And this great thing and then my little question the one -- Well I do think it's wonderful. You know for years those those that have been involved in the discussions about coastal issues have always said that we should. Louisiana. Tend not to focus on the things that which we are the best and one of those is dealing with coastal issues of the -- we have. The best scientists in the world. And everybody's to anybody else basic. Knows what's going on has made their back at a Louisiana. You know people are saying that we need to go to the villains to find out how to do things and certainly. You know I've made -- -- for the Netherlands. When I was that ten years old back in the mid fifties and deceptive -- had their major flood. And they are brilliant brilliant. Society and culture. But they come here all the time been in there are a number of people there who have gotten there. Graduate degrees and -- in the universities and and a lot of their people have come over here and part of our universe is so there's been a constant exchanged. Among scientists and engineers between our countries and every other country in the world is dealing with coastal issues. But it themselves so for that matter we need to be -- leader in this campus. May be the key to bring that altogether. Also and -- am very happy the city. That the discussion brings together all the sectors and work on coastal issues its universities. Government. And the private sector you know especially the engineering firms alike. Who for many many years have made major contributions for the way -- week. Look at our code so so I'm really excited about I hope that there is a major role -- for nonprofits as well and I'm sure there will be. I'm 11 of the questions. As you will know and go to the Wharton -- when you go to -- Little canals and usually the use of these homes on the canal. With the best -- can describe it rings on each corner of house. That or wrapped around a year. -- -- and and houses float off. When the board come in implements a moment ago as a way to the flooding so problem then they have. All of these areas are like catch basins in -- sometimes what -- -- play then they have to giant gates my question is. We've had. Innumerable experts on the show prominently and saying yeah you can do this -- That's why they used the call -- canal street in but for the call that -- -- you can do at all -- we don't. If we come public reaction will we implement. Probably you know I think people implement as they cannot. Right now there's as we've we have an economic challenge and an awful lot of things that people want to do. They just don't have the resources to do and I think anybody who thinks that our government is gonna come up with the resources. To to take the next step. It is it is. Thinking wrong as well I just I think it's gonna take a unity of our nation to understand how important this -- it maybe it. -- that this this campus in Baton Rouge may be able to be a focal point for this kind of discussion. Because we know that every coastal community in this nation is imperiled. And I mean I can only imagine how dangerous it is. With sea level rise. And storm patterns and everything in Miami. In New York security. The Carolinas. Virginia. Go all the way around. Obviously -- Cisco all these places -- Are vulnerable and we need to take this on it and understand that the national challenged. For decades. This has been an issue of -- coastal Louisiana port New Orleans and I think now people covered the realization that we're talking. Over a period of hundred years which is a couple of human generations that we got. Re tool aren't thinking about how we deal with coastal. Environments in which certainly. Should not be thinking about simply. Abandoning them immediately. But there might be some things that we should portal because knowing what we know. And I think that goes your first question has maybe that's why this campus is being put in the middle of state. At the State Capitol. Near the largest university. In sort of think tank that zone where there's an awful lot of people. Who are not too far away -- every other universities -- states only a couple of hours at most away. From where that campus is going to be so what did it does make logistical sense. And we your midterm -- always not week which country this world of money problem. Well look and talk about how that might affect the border campus and -- might be overcome. Oh you got questioned -- comments we've got the expert where this. If you just joined hundreds come up with the of what seems to be a great idea from water campus. But you put a lot of money into it initially reported five million dollars. They're gonna series of stages that they build -- with the ultimate hope of bringing experts from all over the world. Not only to learn how to better put saluted the saving a -- wetland. But also to sell those products when we develop and to the rest of the world. That's all you've threatened with water problem we have grown that we always call that the use on doctor Bob Thomas records and urban farm -- -- communications loyalty and virtually. Doctor. We would just to show on the disappearance of the end of one of the articles have pulled up said. A big as a responsible for 7100. Crops that make up 90% in the world food supplies. And if we don't have -- we're going to be up almost all of food. And one of the problems -- suspected is pesticides. In question had to do have begun the experts at all. Why doesn't the EPA doing something about this it's where the incentive for five years and then. In an adjustable. And more than 71 and a hundred crop pride in and they gave me another and -- -- it. How long is is gonna take you keep losing him at his -- and world could be decades. And I said to them of basically that's. Of when I'm with friends that don't know about wetlands laws and that's it. And New Orleans could be cold front property -- twelve could be the divider between the wetlands sports left problem. And the gulf and water -- there's no oh goodness -- gonna happen. But it could happen in fifty years -- as goalies York. It is Kim this kind of thing catcher on -- produce a product. When we keep talking about that tragedy that could occur in fifty years. Well. I have absolutely. And I and I think at glaze over because people think it's not gonna happen immediately for me. But oh my god don't these people that don't they think about their children and the grandchildren. I mean that's what barks of humanity is that we've looked down the road. And that we worry about future generations so that the eyes glazing over -- always been. Something that bugs me you know what these people think. What I wanna hear say when you say that is a wanna be here to here say that we better start now. Because it's that important. And unfortunately people say well -- can it hurt me from about -- thinking but it. But. But do you think that that big projects like this what -- campus. Are what we need to move to the next level of -- we've we've been a lot of semi connected organizations in this state prolonged. Doing the best we can look very few resources and it looks like for the first time here that the resources are going to be focused in the put in the one area and and as I said earlier. But my biggest prayer for this is that they are totally inclusive. That everybody has been working on this. From the beginning for all these years. Has a seat at the table and has -- on trade to the projects in the programs in the resources. And that sort of thing and that includes by the way the media I mean I think it's real important and I think the media will be that the cover what they do. But they need to figure out how to really. Enhance the media's understanding. And and ability to cover the issue. The -- -- -- reported five million bucks three billion coming three buildings in the beginning. And they they envision a much -- larger. Campus over the next ten years would you probably money. A. Well I you know I I don't know where they're at that that's something they haven't really talked about openly. Because obviously those I was so worried about coastal restoration. Are looking at the fifty billion dollar price tag. On that the coastal plan that 2012 coastal plan. And have our fingers crossed and toes crossed that everything else across. That that that is gonna fall in place to find that because the one thing we know is that the funding. Sources. Are gonna always -- strained. And that coupled with what they -- fifty billion you know it's going to be a heck of a lot more bad. So we're very concerned about that so I'm sure some people are thinking why would we could spend. A hundred million are a couple of Saturday and eventually. On a campus like this but. But I'd I do think that it's good management and you know I think the more we focus this stuff and get people working together. On the central plan. I think the better off will be. Will there be some people upset yet. It always feels badly that people I think what they've worked a long long problem issues and they feel like something is running about them and leave -- in the dust. But if the leadership. Does what they're saying they're gonna do. From their water institute of golf in places like that. And it if -- if he's a understand how to deal with diverse groups of people -- this is going to be a great. A great thrust of the state. A -- cursing the Vatican bill old. A model of the laurel Mississippi River this thing concluded gigantic 50000 square of put three and happen secret product. But Alicia who already have as so -- track already built but it's outdated. Or what would be updated the river change. Don't know it's just that the technology was built the thing is it's just like you know you go up to the waterways experiment station in Vicksburg they've got. God they've got model there of Santa Barbara. Separatist go. They have just about everything around the country where they do modeled experiments as it acts almost like 55 except that it. Several decades old technology works literally can go to way out of waterways experimentation Vicksburg they have an outside model. Of the old river control structure. And it's got. You know and human scale the whip of the water running. West towards that -- alliance it's probably only about twenty feet right so there and that that. -- all that water that's running out of the Mississippi system and coming out the red system and evidence. But they actually that there was small rocks and things and move them around -- see what it does to the floor of the current they can make the current flow at different speeds. Based on different scenarios of water available in the system. And they actually been go -- real time and do things add up at the larger scale. It's absolutely fascinating to see. How bad engineering and science work. But it's been very effective force for all these years so I think what they're trying to do is if something. Updated with new technology and everything in Baton Rouge on the lower Mississippi River. So that more scientists and engineers and other people can have access to -- what about you if you want to be old would you go to Clinton Mississippi. Where there's an outside model of the Mississippi River that was built during World War II. With labor from German prisoners. And it's outside it's really old technology. But it works that tell us how that system works. Doctor I don't wanna get too excited. When the bar listeners -- texted in the answered when you know always -- house. Why don't people get more concerned about laws. Are you ready for the you know -- Are your audience is much more concern about -- -- I hit it right -- probably -- throughout. Doctor I'll look gorgeous Benigno a Christmas with the new and got hundreds and then all of 2004 to apple lawyer and a pleasure you have great help you. Up well. To talk about to repeat -- could be -- urban environmental communications royal university. And he's always too modest is Syria what he's -- -- the decades for office when it comes to our safety. Our knowledge of the environment and actually getting things done. Have been extraordinary.