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12-23-13 4:10pm Bobby & Mike: on Saints-Panthers

Dec 23, 2013|

Bobby and Mike take calls on the Saints' 17-13 loss to the Carolina Panthers.

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Good evening everyone and welcome to another -- of this I can -- show. Like to -- about -- -- but the symbols look for casinos beside him and not counting Mississippi. When I tell everybody else programming note tonight at 630. On will be home with the so on the state radio network 630 -- coach Sean Payton and special teams coach. Thing Anquan and at 730 you know be Monday Night Football the Atlanta Falcons in the San Francisco 49ers. And Bobby did -- how long talk about this. One of the few times he's the people that -- Atlanta Falcons tonight -- -- -- can't do it. Well the one reason or another and yeah I know I got money on the game. -- -- -- on that spot this in mile -- all is well tomorrow all the on that. Yeah like you look at it really. You know back to back gains. One Atlanta and on the trying to solidify think position. Each year I don't think it's gonna happen out that 49 in the role but. You know what like in. These -- a high note that Carolina has the goal at Atlanta. And actually a situation back in 1996. We beat the 49ers Christmas to you they were playing -- noble ones the and we had to win it on the playoff -- remember that on the depth charges starting quarterback in. And they they were knocking the crap a lot of men almost any got a sprained neck he doesn't wanna play anymore it would now -- -- point. And we came back human about adding them. So I mean anything can happen it is the NFL now we don't -- more win yeah yeah no no no no no that's. We -- one of those teams that was dealing around 500 -- you know are trying to get to nine wins then. You know and have a winning season in they it was a like a three or four win type team that. Anything can happen. That's why you play all of the games. Tampa Bay would like nothing more if the rain on the things -- particularly down right now what -- it would only -- -- come Sunday. So like -- -- is still a lot on the line. Very disappointing loss when you look at realistically. A what you expected in being objective. That you if you would have thought back in the training camp went eleven games. The that would be a great season and it it would be with they'll have that opportunity. But it just could get off to a hot start. You know five and oh you raised the board yeah sit back late in the Indian expectations were raised though we thought -- one probably go but the -- to. That you get off to such a hot start in. And realistically -- -- heartbreaking losses. When you look at new England and -- Carolina -- Now when you look at disappointing losses. What you look at the Jets game. And been you look what happened too embarrassed to law that Seattle. And then with the Rams the rant problem Bulls considering. What you locally born in younger opponent -- so realistically. They get that. That you know three losses -- instead of five but it it is what it is then you just have to accept it then. And I go forward the bottom line it knows when to get the playoffs now the states have been. Unbelievable. At home compared to on the road and I'm an ex coach -- this I don't know of any rhyme or reason. But -- that make them have basically scored two more touchdowns -- home and have on the road. Their average of 33 points a game in his superdome in nineteen. Point -- game on the road but we need to get to nineteen we get thirteen I got a considered opponent. Carolina really they've been if not noble 11 or -- with sports scoring defense. Given up thirteen 1415 points a game that I -- surprised what you look at and Mike actually this. And that you know racket ball because we've had such unbelievable offense. The thing that failed to score. Knotted it on the -- -- field -- aborted two touchdowns. Now the last five games on the road. -- look at New York it's the Jets. -- Atlanta Falcons. Against Seattle. The Seahawks them at Saint Louis and now -- Carolina. That we failed to score aborted two touchdowns. On the road in. And that's something we you know we did extricate is Ohio that we're always seem to hate. And I still hold off at the comparable because Carolina only scored seventy points to -- -- held -- lost that game. That a fifth nineteen on the twenty -- twenty -- to run them. Then that is safe to -- we've structured the bottom line is we should win. And I like defeat I. When a team -- all four on third down. Carolina -- -- for nine and you still won the game I mean outlook on the look at that last drive very discouraging that weren't able to hold a mile. But go on all -- get 11 down you know since -- games over. -- -- the second time this year you actually showed up the Cowboys. In I think that's a situation. Only 2% of gains or one. In the NFL when you don't convert a third did very well and I hope I'm right is that at a time. I -- -- -- I think that was the -- believe what Bob I think bottom line is this is the most disappointing loss in the regular season in the -- -- -- -- -- you go back -- that when he. Well championship series. Play golf like I departed on and on as the -- that too. And it is the most disappointing all the regular season this was it because you did everything but win the game yep yesterday. When you think about that you bring it 81 plays Carolina just ran forty to go through 2118. It rushing yards that you can help them do it 18 -- Sounds to can't first down -- it was basically two little one Carolina of them -- of a time of possession. A look at what we had the ball. Almost 39 minutes that there a 21 minutes I mean. It was it was -- very disappointing pressured now. When you look at. And now we're on the negative side we're -- collected a game we minus one in a turnover ratio. We end up being minus one for the game now that they they're -- early in the season you know getting those turnovers that we've only got now the last eight games you only three takeaways. So when you look who won this mobile and having thirty -- -- -- Dallas. A great achievement. And you look when you break it down. It is different marry you you could see well. You know we've been. You know this year we actually collected the Rams game protected the football offensively. We weren't turning it over. We do look at whenever you're not an a plus side. And you know heart like game technical legal way to get that journalist obviously the different. Gotta think to Bob I think injuries the starting -- up with this football team we talked about Jabari -- it may be in theory next man up. But that that's really not reality now you lose people -- -- before the season even started -- -- victim Butler had done commitment was lost. -- Will Smith was lost you got a glimpse of of you know Jonathan Vilma but already union that you know he basically had played his best football that he's -- got to play wasn't gonna play anymore. You have all these injuries. And you -- it would -- album. But then -- -- barring a new injury to me was the major one. That really has affected this football team and I you lose -- on a -- with a broken ankle. And so. When it O nine and eleven you can't have those type injuries. That really come -- -- your football team -- wanted to the other the fact that you could win eleven games and sustain that many injuries defensively. Bottom line is this team is not the greatest -- on an airport anymore right that they really being fuel. My moral of the defense outside of football that they are on the offensive side. The football well we've had a top five defense we're open rob trying to get him at least to the middle the pack. Well above and -- on expectations does they'd released. We've been able to do with the defense that. You know you know we challenge of players that when you have an opportunity. And I definitely got me Malcolm Jenkins has been up and down at getting in the team gets interception. You know but I thought on that last. You know touchdown like Carolina when he was -- and you come and all of that and it. And all of a sign he thinks. He has a three shot can you can't let all of its alignment which -- all the way. And basically chucked them you got to be helped me the last and a leather be you've got to be like a heat seeking missile. And go airborne like kind of like Troy Polamalu you gotta disrupt. That throwback can use and you can't just like get -- to decide I'll just a little disappointed because they're like who would play conservative. We won like prevent defense -- -- trying was being aggressive. And I just thought before you had a chance. To hit Hixon and B Corey white. That then all of a sudden. Malcolm Jenkins should have gotten there are disrupt that they'll not let him throw an accurate crickets can use him. Was not accurate passer in the ball if you really don't lack driving me. You -- feel like resort to a -- three great throws considering you have a lot of pressure on them. Three great throws the fact of the matter is how well the Saints played against the run you give up the one big run -- DeAngelo Williams for the school war. The bottom line is -- -- defense really really played well and stop the running attack. Of the campus in the crazy sport. If I would have told you before the game the Saints would rush 426. Yours in the Hamptons what -- rushed for 81. -- -- would have been -- the Saints then they'll win in this. Planned dump it went even have been a question that it would even have been a question I think that not have won. That game in and and we were speculating and not and all the entry. His toe. Can't can you with -- out there I mean you look at and so he only had what secure our Russian. So like you could see he was still in there pretty -- to big pass plays at the end. Basically in -- that final drive he was not even a fifty punts that. Passer against this team and the offensively like us that you played well enough to win this football game. You got to hang this loss on the offense. Bottom line you got to hang it on offensively. Not being able to convert not being able to convert on certain third down situations that could've put this game ahead. Today is definitely -- ready to -- more pupil who do you hold most improbable but the Saints lost to the campus. Drew Brees the offensive line. Coach Sean -- Our other you can cast your vote at seven FL dot com will be back with more second guessed but this is brickyard of these seven. To the second guess you might take your body there to tell everybody Angela hill on newest member of the radio Pamela. The -- she has a great show for you at 1 o'clock when the pierce the celebrated you -- sun rays than in part to train park. 1 of the real central characters and HBO series from day. Nice stars and NBC's new comedy of Michael J. Fox show -- to force and -- -- to be on with Angela hill. We had to go to -- telephone lines and we're gonna go to pick John in this city picked on you know how to with -- in night. I'll. Try you know. And they say you are. I got -- as things and in looking at something that. Was being called -- But commentators. Today about. Eight brought in a PowerPoint presentation at present to some of the players. On why it's important oak our ground ball out of bed and just incidentally plays through the play -- Currently the Payton said something to be back that. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Probably good equip themselves a little bit better. Well this year really starting with the New England game I'm always get the impression that this is strictly a young -- because -- know. Quite yet -- game. And they show -- what we -- today they could -- the first half when they needed to run out the clock. Am they simply could not stop Carolina when it stopped and looked at and I know that some birdies back. I think it just goes back to west the only -- so -- from the angle. On the gate suspension. And that's Sean Payton. Has got some -- -- to build. -- these players to -- especially. -- assistant coach. -- -- and it all along the line things up at the line. And that's and -- that GB at times where it doesn't matter the opponent knows you can run the ball they'll have that ability. Opt out and about whether it you know 31 of those select you know we -- running and -- -- -- -- it. You get stale bread and butter right now is the competent. Is that it was short yardage that we don't we -- in the -- -- -- now. I mean it is because the productivity. And where we at right now. When you look at -- -- if you look at the Patriots you beat Carolina. OK we've failed to get a first down nothing about it. A lot of coaches in the NFL. You know like they don't want a path. Because if you pass and the ball to complete what happened the clock -- That's like giving at a tidy and me excited at a time out to -- opponent. So when you look at union not able to so to speak now you got to keep him active -- practice run three times up the middle. And nine and then you know hope for the best that you get a -- now. But a lot of times and how you think which on Peyton -- that have. The imagination -- to get a run pass option. That if the receiver is not open. Don't -- that only been a completion. Get what you can -- are. You know maybe you know once you are with -- about the -- keep the clock movement. If you want that clock movement. As far as -- trying to played a percentage. And manage the clock. But I think -- we have not been able to do. We easily I mean the ball bounces your way that you look at landed -- first game in the dome. Eagles love the way defending at Tampa but I just talk about the ball while the new way. The majority of the time and that that could have been the case at new England and obviously I Carolina what -- don't -- have a chance to get there and back on the ball -- ecological stop thinking there's nothing more rewarding. An offense. The team Drew Brees and Sean Payton to tell you this. Is that -- that a two minute -- to call a bit with that this like a four minute offense. You're about to start it -- -- it. Without -- think in the game. But they can't get to all the -- just run out the clock. Haven't had a word they need to get the ball back to win and you have about a six minute drive. Andy you kneeled the ball the game's over that -- -- and that is the most humiliating humiliating. I haven't defeat an opponent when all they gotta do with stopping indicate. Well obviously that can't happen against the Patriots and Carolina to get a first down in the game which should have put out the -- in both both games in a position. You know one of things to is before we go to break is the fact that the way -- defense was playing it. You almost thought that on the third down -- they were gonna throw it because you know what promised Boris that he is a tremendous money he's gonna back him up. And the way defenses play in the -- Carolina's offense up and do that final drive had an almost -- and -- -- them. My thing -- -- -- if you gonna gamble that -- and all that that would have been the time to do it will have a lot more here in the second guess she'll write up this news break with. -- -- Well elected to second guess you might -- to -- Bobby gave him a lap of the symbols -- casino beach side and cut coming Mississippi. Sports fans tonight at 9 o'clock you have a choice. Because it's much to the big 87 need to continue listening to the Falcons or an honest game. Or you can catch NBA basketball that you Wallace pelicans and the Sacramento Kings on the flagship station 105 point three. -- -- yell at them body. And Mike you know within a break and you talking about you position in the hidden yardage in -- last month. The last month by -- that. -- -- 37 yards we know bars that he never done that now I'm an act which Peyton. Now that you -- more of that nature begin at -- time that he doesn't have a return. Now the reason why say that because Ted Ginn junior. I'm not thinking Devin Hester. -- his averages twelve and a half yards of return and empathy for the fifth best in the NFL. This season so they -- or 37 yard plaudits pie. Bearcats but he got the ball on the 35 yard line. I mean you can't tell me more -- it kick it 47 yards in the starting on the 25 on his plane. Devils that because I know more of their ability and it directional punt and I don't know the addition to land those different outside in the dome. But I've seen mark fake kick a 47 yarder. Where directional weren't high 47 yards and since I'm not about the unlike so odd about -- -- junior did not have a chance to return if god forbid that you imagine. Then he departed all of sixty yard line with the coverage -- not there and -- get -- it like we don't live. Putting him the ball let him have that kind of return so I'm an accident that came into play. Because only a 37 yard bomb bomb more of that at that time and he might now be designated. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Is that because. We felt -- -- thought that it would go on and overtime yet. They no way I'll delegates not leave it to play -- that was plain that I thought it gonna get it back Jonathan I don't know we might win and -- -- might I don't know. What's gonna happen I think you get a touchdown. With things -- their field goal kicker -- no room and yeah and now. C'mon I think that even if they don't get -- back on me ethnic hate that game going over them you that you get the ball on the 35 yard line. Without that one big throw. Over the middle by kick -- -- and once you make admitted that field goal range so that did not surprise that -- nobody's darted from. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- John it's like -- done in the huddle we've gone in might. Yes that was -- he. Are on the senior mean yes it's here or go home. It's just treatment and I it was a brutal -- it was tough but I mean they're a lot of pontificate. From -- it would. It was a great improvement over Seattle the Seattle including Lewis and with Seattle wondered yesterday. Arm -- does that. I know it's going to be a bumpy road but it doesn't look so impossible for us to go on the road now. Armed group if we can tighten some things -- certainly -- as well. Well but think about this thing about is if we go on the road in a well and play defense like we played against Carolina know we have a chance to beat anybody. John at that bothered me right now and who you gonna. The Who you gonna play. Even the winner of the NFC east which more than likely will be Eagles because not only Robles now the rest of the season. Are the winner at the NFC central you're not sure if Aaron Rodgers is gonna play an up and looked up there. I mean. Just help matters that football team and that's -- if if -- -- -- pick two teams out wanna play in the opening round. I wanna get out of those two teams if not New Orleans a separate Siskel and not getting as the wild cards. I'm telling you this. The -- not as -- this -- end up winning the first round. Now what happens after that gap remains to be seen but this late in the fought -- not -- and I would say this even Arizona. Is better then the winner of the NFC central and the winner of the NFC east. At at him when you look at it right now it might be in the history of the NFL playoffs. I don't know their particular could be better while cart team in the 49 in this thing. Where even though they had a whole team and and there are other -- fan -- is saying. Gobble up I don't know we get away and it you know talk about no bottom talent you want to play the first game in the playoffs even they'll be at home -- -- -- -- think. That Villanova -- that they could be in the way to 49ers this structured. The equivalent would like -- about the work -- that and if things go on the road. While according to it would win like -- Philadelphia or whatever whatever unethical hawk can't believe this stuff that no I could easily with I haven't heard -- the. The other thing too is not nobody would love this is somehow someway to topple as an end up beating the Eagles. The Saints and they'll play in the college I just -- in god I -- -- he says you gotta go beyond that. That -- Yankee land now. Jerry Jones does well when he was filled with static. It was almost embarrassed and -- to beat the Redskins then looked at they'd they'd love beat the Redskins debut Cowboys fans. Within him that that the battle the playoff game you don't really care what they do now knocked Tony Romo all -- -- juggled it. It is view of ever -- there had back problems. If you -- Jack WK you've not been. Nike give a shot it -- that shot to Wear off. Knowledge is Danny Tony Romo bout with the -- you and and an okay yeah it was a big got said he intermittent and their defense is terrible. -- you. -- you wanna talk about that. Pressure coach Kelly in the eagle on the ballot you have to win. I mean right now what you're better than the Cowboys the president on the Eagles coach Kelly who did what they've played more in Dallas. And I know what to do well and the ball alternate hitting multiple rocket a lot of -- that guy's a cut above. It it done. And I did -- I didn't think we can -- any momentum I maybe. You know being a little bit optimistic but. I think there were a lot of pop it in the game I think it would probably heard a lot more than Kirk being out how we beat it -- Grow a lot more easily anyway I'm just -- I think there's a lot of positives from my -- -- due to the you know. -- -- he'd go down in the arrow that's -- -- but but I think big part of his. And and I -- eighteen year. Apart in the same opinion it's yesterday afternoon being connected with because they're our deal we can absorb the offensive line just -- However we go about -- net. I think we we can certainly be bill -- Don't know that David had a band nickel and this -- -- it and I respect everybody's opinion. The thing we need a quarterback Beckett or eighty yard -- -- -- yet so let's fly JaMarcus Russell he or eighty yard man analytical at. They have never get the complete blog at this say that -- in the cart and you know might be if not think so much for the call we appreciate it got a lot more -- like I guess you are -- that is great deal in the big hits them. What about the -- Daschle Mike it to your body bail out and is also the casino beats out and it got down in Mississippi. In the -- -- couple months he has yet to look for the Monday night contest between the Atlanta Falcons in the San Francisco for an honest. Yeah that game right here on the big gate seventy it's christmastime and evidently felt watching you enjoy the unique flavor. Of New Orleans with the holiday. French market coffee gift basket. This to school tomorrow between six and then where your chance to win the gift basket includes three bags of French market -- among. What a five dollar. These bills get certificate to boxes that single serve coffee. In a -- by the parents Osborne the value of the prize is 85 dollars on you win. When you hear that Dixie cups they let it snow will give you the number at all tolerate wins a beautiful French market coffee gift basket. From your home for the holidays and all you're alone -- -- would be right back with more -- yes. Welcome back to second guess we have a good game and you get in your words that you ticket. On the air with Bob in my. -- away and -- solid reached potential poor. -- -- American parents through Carle -- more palatable. Character on treatment and going to sort you spoke. Colts and we all should call or Leo you just -- view as the run the ball. I just don't Q there. Lately it reeked of all time in the game. Activity. And -- -- -- -- -- -- -- that on that like the birds that -- and important. That. Right and look at the yet one of the best game he's yet one run and I like low. That's who we expected. -- them -- yet great run against that that's out the. And -- they are they're up by. Sproles. Didn't get an indictment returned an Austrian allotment are running and -- And -- -- definitely in the bank UB taco it's a game. What are you let it -- returner. Sproles is only averaging basically fixture aren't -- retired that you didn't get that is -- -- hit me how to get better. In the off season and die on the practice and I got the body of practice squad includes Williams but it would take a long look at the college ranks that -- just looking Daschle run at this news.

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