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12-27 12:10pm Don Dubuc, Saints battle the Bucs

Dec 27, 2013|

It’s all on the line this Sunday when the Saints battle the Bucs in the Superdome….win and the Saints are in the playoffs…but where? Todd Menesses breaks down the possibilities and tells you who you should be pulling for in the NFL in order to give the Saints the best scenario in the post season.

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And it's a Friday edition of the think -- down to be with you as we head into the middle of the holidays between Christmas and New Year's don't know which runs -- deal as some of the best deer hunting going on is known that time. Everybody's off schools closed in the deer in the run in them become very vulnerable and if some venison on the table but also think about football playoff time and -- -- sixteen. And the plot thickens for the New Orleans Saints. Carolina Panthers Seattle Seahawks 49 is -- today and that's just the National Football League. The AFC's another whole story -- Manassas cohost -- first taken does a lot of other things around the station joins me now out of -- and give us the the the skinny on what's gonna happen here as far as the saints Todd thanks for joining Sefton. Well first thing done I thought everything reminded you would deer season behind it kinda does. It. I would I was taken aback by that. Yeah you know you're really hate that the saints have. Played themselves into this position now beginning of the season start now five and so everyone was. All Ohio where this team could go with this team to win the NFC south that look like it was possible and then. These last couple weeks. I don't wanna see the wheels have fallen off the wagon but. They got -- they got a flat here in the air and they're kind of push it uphill. The saints do still. In the words of -- Partner Steve court that he hates control their own destiny. India playoff scenario basically they just have to win Sunday against Tampa Bay. And they'll be in the playoffs now the question is where will they be in the play -- and that's what everybody's asking about 'cause we know. How the saints played on the road so far this year. And their history of being on the road in the playoffs. Is not stellar fact they've never won a road playoff -- Didn't know that yet so. Under any coach while so there you go that's that is not good good scenario for the saints however. Looking at this they still have a shot at getting that number two seed which and that would be a big advantage because that's almost like a victory I mean you get Obama you -- to play game. Right. What you get to play a home game you first play a game would be home. Now in order to do that. We would have to as to who that it's. Cheer for the dirty birds. Atlanta. And never thought I would say this saints fans we have to pull for Matt Ryan and the falcons. To be Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers okay that would be the first thing that has to happen. Then the saints would have to beat Tampa Bay we would then win the NFC south and be the number two -- So and have a home playoff game so that's the best possible scenario for this week and what's the spread on the -- now. I believe Carolina's favorite amateur by how much that the -- So. But again you know you could have some things go on for -- it's. Possibly Tony Gonzales is last game in the NFL maybe they'll rally around Tony Gonzales get a final victory for and get a victory for their coach and their owner and setter it's that are -- I know I'm grasping at straws here saints fans but I'm trying to trying to say something morality. The falcons to win against Carolina the that the falcons don't in this fans don't hate the saints -- and that they openly and lose with. Is that possible. I don't think so I mean I don't think saints fans you want to do that you want your team to go out on a victory okay no matter New York. It just so happens at this time around in order to help the saints scenario you'd want Atlanta to win in Carolina fall. That would mean that we'd have the same record as Carolina and -- We would hold the tiebreaker over them because they would have to a division losses with Atlanta beating them what we only have the one in the Carolina beat us so we'd in the -- I'd gets a lot more complicated. And it looks like the possibilities are number two seed basketball circumstances. Could end up an outside shot ended up the number five see -- and wish they would play the winner Chicago vs Green Day. And then there's also -- strong possibility could limit the number six yeah -- The numbers say right. Now technically if the playoffs started today the saints would be the number six seed. At ten and five and they would play the Eagles who currently lead via NFC. East and that's a big game that will be played. Sunday night the Eagles and Dallas the winner of that game will win the NFC east and will host that playoff game. Same thing on the other side with the NFC central with the bears in Green Bay. Whoever wins that game will win that division and then will host the games so. If the saints have to go on the road whether they're the fifth seed the 68. You're looking at them playing at either. Philadelphia. Chicago. Or Green Bay or maybe Dallas. It's dependent on how that works well Dallas would be -- the choice I guess if you had to pick one of those places to go on a frozen tundra of Green Bay ain't fun. Those nasty people of Chicago is a tough one and Eagles on the greatest the ozone monitor snowballs at commodity. Crazy crazy Todd gets some text in no one says I will be in Atlanta fans Sunday but I think they'll take a flop. Just so they don't help us come on now. Also feature come on man. Is nobody a professional football players and I think I'll just take today off and let them win because I -- this right no way and it's it's a division. Flow you know Carolina and Cam Newton there's not there's there's no love loss with the Atlanta remember. Cam Newton grew up in Atlanta Falcons fan and said that at the beginning of the season and little had talked about that in the offseason and so Atlanta fans are kind of yeah. Carolina fans were a little upset about it so their there's something there I don't know if it's enough to -- Atlanta to win. But look they don't wanna go out on a loss they don't wanna go out. Losing they've actually. There were close they played well against the 49ers last Monday night. They want a couple -- last down the stretch so they wanna go out on on a winning season you want to end a minute when exhibit winning game you wanna end the season. On a win and there is a lot to that building for the next season with that final game. Plus these guys got you know next year's contracts on the line on the play and -- -- look good then I'm gonna get out there and justly and helmet on the field -- another one says. Tony Gonzales last game there is hope Atlanta will rally I don't know if Tony Gonzales in his last game examining do. Well I mean he he's gonna wanna play in and look well and may be his teammates want to win the final game for mommy look they they talk this guy in to stay. He was gonna retire last year to make into the NFC championship game and losing. -- stick around of the year looks like we got everything together will make a run for the Super Bowl didn't happen. They had the opportunity to trade him earlier in the season he said he would he would consider wanting -- trade to a team that could make a playoff run and Atlanta decide to keep and so. NB a nice send off to send him out that way. Is another Tex here's the thing the Carolina loss was so big had we won the team would have had two weeks off technically. Because the start of -- sent out I don't think dissipates starters can afford to sit out many. Well I know what they're saying if you if you win does Carolina thing this does have a great game wouldn't mean anything and you could sit Drew Brees and those guns and Ronald and so I think that what happened. Here's another one what impact on the path as will Steve Smith now the and the other one says those same thing I thought Atlanta looked really good against San Fran they'll be playing Carolina home with no Steve Schmidt. Steve Smith that good. Steve Smith is that good he's been a thorn gives us a -- of restraints and and just about every team he's ever played he's. He's kind of like he's their little I guess you'd say Lance Moore but with a really bad attitude. You know and he likes that -- take thing he takes things personally he says that every game is personal to him so. He really plays hearted and places heart out he's always the -- finds a way to make that catch when they needed they're not gonna have him in. You kind of saw the effect on the played the -- it was a little sketchy there for awhile. Speak in a man attitudes. This move the saints did -- to replace Charles. Honest rookie got his launching. We now -- -- allotment -- my isolated camera on him he got beat really well and and yet the saints refused to put brown backing and ask somebody in this is rule when you hear stuff on the street. That brown quit on him. The week before in because he did that he was going on the bench and Amanda what happened they weren't put back. He probably won't play this week. I don't know if he quit on him I I I do know is a coach. Coach Payton wanted to make a statement. He made a choice I'm going with this guy this is my guy and he stood by him. Did he know that Iran Armstead was probably give. Did bull rushed a couple of times like he dinner the twist that they did on -- the get around him which everyone says in the scouting combine as the two weaknesses he has. They know that Carolina and those that have been jumping knew what happened. But you -- You got to stick with your guns and that's up and I think he learned from Bill Parcells when Bill Parcells made a decision made a change if you got his doghouse he stated his -- for awhile. So I don't think legacy Charles Brown comeback. This game and it's going to be to -- Armstead again. And -- even if he's nativity struggles and I think you still Tennessee to run arms there though does put the time -- -- -- in LA and Jay Leno that night he's not gonna go back on him now elastic guy and I heard he he just laid down. He he caused -- some problems but let -- -- -- and that's and that's you know unforgivable and that's why that's unforgivable and I mean again I don't know if it's. -- he go I don't know what it is -- feet maybe laid down on Amanda and and noticed that Charles Brown may have laid down on an elegant beat really bad. And he did cost the team a touchdown with a penalty which also Toronto Armstead cost us a couple of yards of penalties too but. You know I gotta I gotta say they -- I'm not -- -- practice so maybe they're -- in September Nazi and then well the -- first game and have in the NFL you can expect mistakes. What about the the move to make the announcement that soon. I mean almost immediately after the game was over says jamaicans and changes. We know Hartley was gone because when he missed a bugle I saw him turned into one the other coaches and you couldn't read his lift his back was to you. But basically he says that's the last straw he's got a goal whatever what you knew was over. He did the same thing which all when he announced it right away I'm gonna make some changes and he's -- -- let the other team prepare for and want to keep that. And he had until the games -- well because I think he was. Also trying to send a message to his team sent a message the other it's and and say look guys you know we're gonna make some changes things aren't going to be enough for Drew -- said he came and we're gonna make changes and are not going to be comfortable ones then and -- -- -- -- -- you -- enjoyable -- -- -- you guys -- -- like some of the things that -- -- gonna we're -- -- But he felt that at this point. He had to shake things up especially an offensive line that has been given him problems all year long and if you look at it. Not all the problems have been Charles Brown but a majority of them have them. All right the moving that this game this week at 3 o'clock. Well what does that will -- at Lincoln -- upon the NF LY has screwed up some people's plans -- had plans made them the games are and so what's -- -- I was looking forward to breakfast and out of William -- myself I still get breakfast there but have probably be much. Here's the NFL's they can and Roger Goodell. I know we hate him in this city and most people don't like him. But he is a mastered a genius at this and this is where this whole flex scheduling thing came in when they started the Sunday Night Football on NBC. You know many times you get the Monday Night Football game and it's a dog. Use you look at the beginning of the season meaning it's going to be a great game and when you get there you get two teams that won two games -- playing each other well NBC didn't want that to happen with the Sunday night game so they ask for -- flex thing meaning towards the end of the season could they highlight game pick and choose a game. That would have. Implications are playoff implications especially at the end of the season. And Roger Goodell saw that and you know that's a good idea we can do that with everything. So then this whole flexing thing comes about what it comes about four is now you have gains that start at noon our time. That have playoff implications. And then you have games in the afternoon that also have playoff implications now. You don't have. Which you have in the past was you have teams watching the earlier games. If some of those teams had the effect on you for example. The saints and Arizona. Okay. That's a game that they each one has to watch to see if the other one's winning well. Normally the saints would played at noon in Arizona would play at 330. Which would mean if the saints won than Arizona has no chance of getting in the playoffs so. They probably wouldn't play everybody here wouldn't be a great game. Well now. They don't have that problem they're playing against at the same time so you move the saints down at the same time. I mean at 330. These of the games that are all playing that have playoff implications. You get San Francisco and Arizona. Green Bay and Chicago. Tampa Bay and New Orleans. Buffalo New England Denver and Oakland Kansas City and San Diego. In Saint Louis and -- all at the same to. Earlier games Carolina Atlanta of course for us I don't know will -- go on and what the Baltimore decency and all those games there for the AFC are also playoff implication games that are that each have a impact on the team that's playing at the same time. -- here's what US saying you the listeners who cast your votes on operating opinion poll question. It's still really ties I'm really see one of our opinion polls in schools saints win falcons win that's 41%. Saints win Panthers win 42%. In saints lose 17%. Cast your vote at WW dot com. Is an interest in Tex comes in loses all my god after being forced in the pull for the falcons for two weeks in a row. I have to swing by Saint Louis cathedral after the game to rinse my mouth out with -- -- Ukraine opera it -- NASA sees the co host of the saints' first take in the will be on. Little bit later in the day this Sunday because the game has been moved to 3 o'clock -- you can hear every moment of every play in fact we do ten hours of saints coverage. On game day right here on the big 870 WWL. Also on 105 point three FM and now you can you on the women Debbie did you -- dot com. -- get some some text in here one says a cheer for the -- -- if they win they get worse traffic. And cheering for them is like cheering against. Isabel might lose for draft picks. Another -- says I believe that -- wind being at home playing a division game plus the motivation of Gonzales -- last game I still think the strongest motivation. Is individual players worried about their own. Worth there and try to perform as best they care and just -- -- historically Atlanta has played Carolina just as tough as they play the saints every game so. I would expect this to be another close game online piracy -- his one I think Atlanta would like to knock Carolina out of winning the division. And all right 8787. He's a text message telephones to 60187866889. 0870. Saints win falcons win 41%. It is still hanging tough. 42%. Believe the Panthers will win 17%. Say the saints will lose. Todd out worse circumstances. Saints are not guaranteed a playoff spot they can go through this and watch all the games on TV -- -- right if they lose to Tampa Bay. And the cardinals beat the 49ers. The and the cardinals will go to the playoffs and the saints will sit home and watch them. And San Francisco go with the two wild cards mean that would be very disappointing. You know I heard Mike to tell you that talked in this morning in in a lot of people and listening in this -- you know the team that usually. Looks the best chance to win gold in the Super Bowl as the one that gets hot you know they don't have as many injuries throughout the season they've been the last few games they get that mold -- momentum rolling. But he says no he said that actually the giants. And the ravens lost their last three games and went on to win a -- is still real in. I'm really really ties opinion polls and see you wanna win falcons were schools saints 1% when that's forty win can't. Saint suite two percentage win Ford saints lose. In Sid sent -- seventeen TVW all that you vote and there's an interest in count. It's as old -- come in to being forced by god their falcons to two in the pull for the I have -- weeks in a row cathedral laughing by Saint Louis -- -- -- of the game to Rick will now with cold out here. It's -- praying company's vehicle Manassas he saints' first most of the same will be on tape in the later in the day. Little bit late because the game -- this Sunday at 3 o'clock -- you has been moved to every moment event in here and we do ten every play in fact coverage. -- of saints day right here on the on game day WWL big 8701050. Also FM point three and you -- -- and now you can view -- that meant to be done and get some. Text in here Lamotte in -- you for the one says they win they get Americans if -- So worst draft is like cheering cheering for them. Against -- might lose. As an -- For draft I believe Atlanta another one says that being -- -- wind vision game all playing in the motivation plus the is last game of Gonzales the strongest game I still think is individual ovation for about their role players well worth I don't. But the form has been there and try to just -- as they -- Anglia Atlanta historic -- and just system has played Carol rates typically that's. Game so this to be an article I would expect privacy -- game on I think without his one and -- Carol Atlanta would like winning the lineup out. And division. Eight sand ninety's it's -- 787260. -- 8679. X 887008. Saints will. -- 41 and tokens were still hang -- percent 42 point tough. The Panthers will percent believe 18% win seven's will say the same god and war -- I'm stances source -- not guarantees saints and they can't playoff spot this and one and goal it on TV with -- -- all the games you -- details right if they and -- -- bulls beat the for the cardinals and then the 49ers of the playoffs and the cardinals will go to -- saints will settle. And watch them go go to San Francisco arts was the two -- be very discipline that would be -- our point. It talked in the Smart Mike Italian. Warning in Munich in this two people and listening that usually an old team looks to -- On goal in the -- chance to win it gets hot bulls won many injury you know they don't have up this season he's the last few games and they've been last -- Miami get that mold. But he's rolling he said there -- no he giants actually the -- ravens law and those three games are still Lance went onto innocent and in. It's still really ties I'm really see you want in my opinion polls in schools saints win falcons win that's 41%. Saints win Panthers win 42%. In saints lose 17%. Cast your vote at WW all dot com. Is an interest in Tex comes in loses all my god after being forced him to pull for the falcons for two weeks in a row. I have to swing by Saint Louis cathedral after the game to rinse my mouth out with -- Copyright Ukraine -- pick -- Manassas CC co host of the saints' first take in the it will be on. Little bit later in the day this Sunday because the game has been moved to 3 o'clock in you can hear every moment of every play in fact we do ten hours of saints coverage. On game day right here on the big 870 WWL. Also -- 105 point three FM and now you can you on the -- that Debbie WL dot com. Town and get some some text in here one says a cheer for the Duncan's if they win they get worse traffic. So cheering for them is like cheering against. Isabel might lose for draft picks so. Another -- says I believe that Hannibal wind being at home playing a division game plus the motivation of Gonzales is last game I still think the strongest motivation. Is individual players -- about their own. Worth there and try to perform as best they care and just waiting -- historically Atlanta has played Carolina just as tough as they play the saints every game so. I would expect this to be another close game privacy when is one I think Atlanta would like to knock Carolina out of winning the division. And all right 8787. He's a text message telephones to 60187866889. 0870. Saints win falcons win 41%. It is still hanging tough. 42%. Believe the Panthers will win 17%. Say the saints will lose. Todd out worse circumstances. Saints are not guaranteed a playoff spot they can go through this and watch all the games on TV -- -- -- if they lose to Tampa Bay. And the cardinals beat the 49ers. And -- the cardinals will go to the playoffs and the saints will sit home and watch them. And San Francisco go as the two wild cards means that would be very disappointing. You know I heard Mike to tell you that talked in this morning in in a lot of people and -- think in this to you know the team that usually. Looks the best chance to win go on the Super Bowl as the one that gets hot you know they don't have as many injuries throughout the season they'd -- last few games they get that mold mold -- -- rolling. But he says no he said that actually the giants. And the ravens lost their last three games and went on to win a -- is still real in. So I'm really really ties opinion polls and see you wanna win falcons schools saints 1% when that's forty win Tampa. Saint suite two percentage win four saints lose. In -- sent -- seventeen TVW all that your vote at doesn't interest and come. It's as old tax comes in to being forced by god if falcons for two and a pull for the I have to weeks in a row cathedral after going by Saint Louis it's -- mile for the game -- written now with cold out here -- It's -- grain companies the -- Manassas he saints' first most of the same will be on tape in the later in the day a little bit late because the game and he this Sunday at 3 o'clock and you have been moved to every moment of that in here and we do ten hour -- in fact coverage. Hours of saints day right here on the on game -- WWL big 8701050. Also FM point three and you on the and net you can bureau that women Debbie -- and get some -- Text in here -- in -- -- for the one says they win they get Americans if they epic. So worst draft is like cheering cheering for them. Against. So might lose. Is an ethnic. 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The Panthers were -- believe 13% win seven's will say the same god that war news. -- stances source certain that guarantees saints and thought they can't playoff spot to this and one and goal it on TV with -- -- -- -- -- -- details right if they Tampa Bay bulls beat the for the cardinals and the 49ers of the playoffs and the cardinals will go to woman saints will settle. And watch them go go to San Francis -- was the two -- be very discipline that would be you are pointing. It talked in the Smart Mike Italian. Warning in Munich in this two people and listening that usually an old team looks to bandy. On the go on the -- chance to win it gets hot bulls won many injury you know they don't have -- the season he's the last few games and they've been last mold my I don't get that mold. But he's rolling he said there is no he giants actually the -- ravens law. And those three games are -- Lance went on the innocent and in. It's still really ties I'm really see you want in my opinion polls in schools saints win falcons win that's 41%. Saints win Panthers win 42%. In saints lose 17%. Cast your vote at WW dot com. Is an interest and tax comes in loses oh my god after being forced him to pull in for the falcons for two weeks in a row. I have to swing by Saint Louis cathedral after the game to rinse my mouth out with -- Happier Ukraine -- crack it tubman NASA sees the co host of the saints' first take in the will be on. Little bit later in the day this Sunday because the game has been moved to 3 o'clock -- you can hear every moment of every play in fact we do ten hours of saints coverage. On game day right here on the big 870 WWL. Also -- 105 point three FM. And now you can you on the women Debbie WL dot com. -- get some some text in here one says a cheer for the now and if they win they get worse traffic. And cheering for them is like cheering against. And I. Isabel might lose for draft picks. Another one says I believe that animal wind being at home playing a division game plus the motivation of Gonzales -- last game I still think the strongest motivation. Is individual players worried about their own. Worth they're gonna try to perform as best they care and just winning -- historically Atlanta has played Carolina just the stuff as they play the saints every game so. I would expect this to be another close game surprise us they would here's one I think Atlanta would like to knock Carolina out of winning the division. And all right 8787. He's a text message telephones to 60187866889. 0870. Saints win falcons win 41%. It is still hanging tough. 42%. Believe the Panthers will win 17%. Say the saints will lose. Todd out worse circumstances. Saints are not guaranteed a playoff spot they can go through this and watch all the games on TV -- -- right if they lose to Tampa Bay. And the cardinals beat the 49ers. And -- the cardinals will go to the playoffs and the saints will sit home and watch them. And San Francisco go as the two wild cards mean that would be very disappointing. Community.

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